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- From: grendel@camelot.bradley.edu (Alyosha Bourgea)
- Subject: Re: Here Are The Undeniable Truths of Life
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- References: <69483@cup.portal.com> <grendel.722041805@camelot> <1992Nov19.164245.8309@ll.mit.edu>
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- Date: 19 Nov 92 19:24:22 GMT
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- In <1992Nov19.164245.8309@ll.mit.edu> lsa@ll.mit.edu (lisa s anderson) writes:
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- >In article <grendel.722041805@camelot>, grendel@camelot.bradley.edu (Alyosha Bourgea) writes:
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- >|>>33. There will always be poor people.
- >|>
- >|>Only as long as there is capitalism.
- >|>
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- >This is so ludicrous it's laughable. Do you mean to suggest that if we
- >eliminated capitalism, we would eliminate poor people? How many people
- >are starving in all of the non-capitalistic societies throughout the
- >world? Name one country in which there are no poor people. I see that
- >the communnist (socialist, actually) pipe dream of "let's dole out
- >everything equally to all for the good of society" was very successful
- >in the "former" Soviet Union. Their productivity soared and all of the
- >people were well-fed and just as happy as clams, right? It's only in the
- >evil capitalist countries, led of course by the evil personified United
- >States of America, that the existence of poor people is accepted as a fact
- >of life. Sarcasm aside, I find it hard to believe that anyone could be
- >naive enough to really believe the statement that you made.
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- Believe it, babe. I never claimed the communistic system of government works.
- All I said was that capitalism creates poverty. Capitalism is _about_ rich
- and poor. How do you interpret the word "poor"? I interpret it as "at an
- economic or financial disadvantage". In a system of competition, where the
- idea is to do better than the other guy, there will always be "the other guy".
- Capitalistic structure perpetuates poverty. It is part of the underlying
- concept. Now, notice I didn't say that communism, socialism, etc. create
- happy clams. People are certainly at a disadvantage under these systems of
- government, because they are systems that function better as ideas than as
- realities. I do not propose a utopian alternative. All I'm saying is that
- if one claims that poverty is inevitable, as Rush does, one should look for
- the underlying cause. The underlying cause is a concentration of power.
- Capitalism provides for this concentration of power. Today in the United
- States, the top four percent of the population make the same amount as the
- bottom fifty percent of the population.
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