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- From: Adrian.Waterworth@newcastle.ac.uk (Adrian Waterworth)
- Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
- Subject: Re: Lords and Ladies references and query
- Message-ID: <BxwztI.B7I@newcastle.ac.uk>
- Date: 18 Nov 92 13:51:18 GMT
- References: <1992Nov17.094528.13083@turing.ac.uk>
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- robin@duich.turing.ac.uk (Robin Boswell) writes:
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- > Half-way down p. 62 of the British edition of "Lords and Ladies",
- >there's a list of five terms for lands beyond the mundane.
- >The first, "East of the Sun and West of the Moon" sounds
- >familiar, but I can't identify the reference. Can anyone
- >help?
-
- The "East of the Sun and West of the Moon" bit is reminiscent
- of a line from one of the poems in "Lord of the Rings".
-
- I can't remember for sure, but it may be in the poem composed
- by Bilbo in Rivendell. You know the one...
-
- "Earendil was a mariner
- That tarried in Arvernien.
- He built a boat of timber felled
- In Nimbrethil to journey in..."
-
- The context is something like :
-
- "Beyond the <Something? Sundering Seas?> that run
- West of the Moon and East of the Sun."
-
- Or maybe it said "East of the Moon and West of the Sun"?
-
- Whatever - it's something like that anyway. Also, if it's not
- that particular bit of verse, it may be some other Earendil poem.
-
- Of course, that may not be the original source of the phrase.
- Tolkien may, himself, have borrowed it from somewhere (being a literary
- chap - not 'alf).
-
- Don't you just hate it when your memory goes on holiday and
- you can't remember something you used to know?
-
- Ade.
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