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- From: robinson@stout.geo.brown.edu (Darrin Robinson)
- Newsgroups: alt.dcom.telecom
- Subject: Re: Open market versus monopoly, was Re: Obtaining ISDN
- Followup-To: alt.dcom.telecom
- Date: 19 Nov 1992 18:23:08 GMT
- Organization: Brown University, Providence RI 02912
- Lines: 77
- Message-ID: <1egm2cINNs8j@cat.cis.Brown.EDU>
- References: <1992Nov17.160614.10428@telebit.com> <1992Nov19.001920.15847@cbnewsc.cb.att.com> <1992Nov19.155205.24190@telebit.com>
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- In article <1992Nov19.155205.24190@telebit.com> bjork@telebit.com (Steven Bjork) writes:
- >In article <1992Nov19.001920.15847@cbnewsc.cb.att.com> res@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (Rich Strebendt) writes:
- >>In article <1992Nov17.160614.10428@telebit.com>, bjork@telebit.com (Steven Bjork) writes:
- >
- >[my other agonizings deleted]
- >
- >>> AT&T is so cash rich they have nothing better to do than buy
- >>> computer companies and pay off lawyers. I'd much rather see that
- >>> money go towards fiber to the demarc, or not taken in the first
- >>> place (ie, rate reductions).
-
- Rate reductions... they have to go to the FCC for approval... AT&T is
- still regulated.
-
- >
- >>What has AT&T got to do with the rest of your posting? As you said
- >
- >If you'll notice the wording in the above paragraph, they *still* make
- >so much excessive profit, they seem to have nothing better
- >to do than hire lawyers. I'd rather they hired engineers...
-
- AT&T make *excessive* profit... I don't think so... AT&T has a capped
- ROI (Return-on-Investment) and can't make more than XX% profit... last
- I knew it was 12%. Besides... isn't profit the reason why companies
- exists... well excluding the philanthropic companies ;->
-
- >
- >I will completely agree that USA seems better off than the rest
- >of the world with regards to telco rates.
- >THAT IS NOT A JUSTIFICATION FOR *ANY* EXCESSIVE RATES.
- >
- >Thats as specious an argument as those that say "Well I drive
- >a lot of miles so that's why I got a ticket." Mileage has
- >nothing to do with obeying laws. If you obey the traffic
- >regulations, you will not get a ticket. Now for accidents,
- >of course driving more miles exposes you to higher risks
- >from the other guy, thus increasing risk of accident.
- >
- >Thanks for your comments, wouldn't want to think no one
- >cares about these issues. :)
- >
- >Perhaps the less than palatable rates I pay to call across
- >SF Bay are PacBell's way of "repaying" me for the fact
- >that my local calling zone is a flat rate.
- >
- >Do other telcos have lower interzone rates if they have
- >time related charges for local calling zone calls?
- >
- >(followups to alt.dcom.telecom, this is really not
- >an isdn issue)
- >
- >--Steven
-
- I think the BabyBells (and LECs) need to run FIBER to the DEMARC, Well,
- jurisdictionally they control wire past the LDCs POP. AT&T has developed
- a method for bringing the cost of running FIBER to the DEMARC for residential
- customers extremely close to that of copper. It becoming more and more easy
- for the LECs to do this anyway...
-
- NyNEX, at least NET, one of their companies, in my home town have all these
- CTs all over the place! They can start replacing the wire on the poles with
- FIBER soon... or should I say under the ground as the plan is. They already
- have a FIBER ring around the city of Newport and people like the Navy are
- already taking advantage of that... if you want to place the burden on AT&T,
- then speak with Judge Greene and have him repeal his 1982 decision. AT&T's
- long distance rates today are over 48% lower than they were in 1982!
-
- Darrin
-
- P.S. Oh... I no longer work for AT&T! ;->
-
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