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- From: dsc@gemini.tmc.edu (Doug S. Caprette Bldg. 28 W191 x3892)
- Subject: Re: BR-Replicants and Pain
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- References: <mwojcik-161192124144@college23.sas.upenn.edu> <1992Nov17.144229.5506@bmerh85.bnr.ca>
- Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 18:51:57 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov17.144229.5506@bmerh85.bnr.ca> shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally) writes:
- >In article <mwojcik-161192124144@college23.sas.upenn.edu>, mwojcik@mail.sas.upenn.edu (Michael Wojcik) writes:
- >|> I just watched Blade Runner (not the DC) over the weekend. I tried to keep
- >|> the recent "Is Deckard a replicant?" thread out of my mind (not that I read
- >|> all of it), and the question I have is this...
- >|>
- >|> Do replicants feel pain? In several scenes (the eye shop, Priss's egg), the
- >|> replicants intentionally demonstrate their absence of pain, and when
- >|> Deckard wastes the first replicant, she keeps running with several bullet
- >|> holes in her. Yet near the end, Priss is flailing around in GREAT pain, and
- >|> when Roy is attempting to ward off the tissue necrosis, he pushes a nail
- >|> through his hand to, I guess, "stimulate" it into functioning. Can you
- >|> say...Inconsistant?
- >
- >Interesting point. Perhaps the replicants are enhanced so that they do
- >not feel extreme heat and cold (liquid nitrogen, boiling water etc.)
- >EXTERNALLY. But if their internals are affected they do feel pain,
- >ie. bullets in Pris, Roy's loss of motor control, etc..
-
- I would hazard a guess that they were more resistant to injury. If a par-
- ticular stimulus did not injure them, they did not feel pain. If it did,
- they felt the pain. Roy is the only one who clearly indicated pain. Pris
- seemed to be having convulsions thought he writhing in pain expanation is
- also good. Zhora was shot in slow motion. In real time, she didn't make it
- very far before falling. Contrast this with the stories among hunters that
- abound concerning deer that run 50 yds or more after being shot through the
- heart.
-
- >
- >|>
- >|> OK. The relevance to the IDAR? thread. If replicants either feel no pain,
- >|> have a high tolerance for pain, or can control WHEN they feel pain, then
- >|> Deckard is not a replicant since he obviously feels *something* when Roy
- >|> breaks his fingers.
- >
- >I still say just the fact that every replicant can kick the sh*t out
- >of Deckard means he cannot possibly be a replicant.
- >
-
- I keep bringing this up, but it never seems to get much attention.
-
- The replicants were rated A, B, or C in regard totheir Mental *AND* Physical
- abilities.
-
- *ALL* of the renegade replicants were rated A for Physical.
-
- If Deckard were a Physical B, wouldn't you expect them all to be able to
- beat the shit out of him.
-
- I might as well ask that if the replicants were "at least the intelectual
- equals of their makers' as it says in the intro, why was Leon so slow?
-
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