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- From: donnell@manowar.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan)
- Subject: Re: Woo's "The Killer" out on US video
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- Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 16:54:04 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov17.111357.20530@yang.earlham.edu> uril@yang.earlham.edu writes:
- >In article <Yf213PK00Uh_85K48x@andrew.cmu.edu>, dr3u+@andrew.cmu.edu (Daniel Read) writes:
- >> "JUDEX" says:
-
- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
- I DID NOT!
-
- >>
- >> In his HK films Woo has usually worked with first-rate ACTORS and not
- >> action-film pieces of meat. Chow Yun Fat is not the HK version of Van
- >> Damme, but of Cary Grant. Leslie Cheung, Sally Yeh, Ti Lung, Cherie
- >> Chung and Jackie Cheung are all top notch actors. (Look at the trilogy
- >> of fine performances that form the center of BULLET IN THE HEAD -- who
- >> would remember it if Dolph Lundgren, Van Damme and Steven Seagal had
- >> played the three friends). So even when the screen is exploding with
- >> bullets the people holding the guns are believably motivated human
- >> beings.
- >
- >I am actually really hopeful about John Woo's American effort. You must
- >remember that when Chow Yun Fat was used by Woo in A Better Tommorow, his
- >reputation was not the greatest in the world as an actor. However,
- >because of Woo's fabulous direction, he pulled a great performance out of
- >Chow Yun Fat. Jean Claude Van Damme has the potential of bringing out a
- >strong performance. He is not a cold person. If you ever see interviews
- >with Van Damm he is warm, joking, laughing, serious and fun to watch.
- >However, the scripts and direction Van Damme has recieved have not allowed
- >him to work off of any of those qualities. John Woo will. I am looking
- >forward to seeing Hard Target, and I will bet we will see Van Damme cry in
- >this movie.
- >Movies make good actors. Think about Bruce Willis in Blind Date. Now
- >picture him in Die Hard. Just a minor change in performance quality,
- >wouldn't you think.
- >But we will see what happens.
- >--
- >
- >Uri J. Lessing | Earlham College | Richmond, Indiana
-
- I hate Van Damme. I have seen him in interviews and don't care for the man.
- So he is gonna cry in this one. BIG DEAL, he has the onscreen emotions
- of a turnip!
-
- I do like Dolph Lundgren, and I would much rather see him in a Woo film,
- for most of the reasons given. That and the fact that he seems to be
- capable of acting from time to time. Something Van Damme has shown
- no trace of. Yes, Woo uses the best actors he can get in Hong Kong,
- but since this is America, he has to get marquee value.
- Suprised that Van Damme is taken so seriously after the box office
- failure of "Double Impact", which caused a layoff at the production
- company that made it. And, suprise, Van Damme was twice as bad as normal,
- in the double role. "Lionheart" was tolerable, but Van Damme is just
- not my cup of bacilli, I guess.
- And at least Lundgren has lost his accent, and can now speak clearly.
- Compare Dolph in "Masters Of The Universe" with more recent stuff,
- like "Showdown In Little Tokyo" and I think you would agree that he
- has come a long way.
- <All imho, and not meaning much>
- --Judex--
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