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- From: 6500cws@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Christopher Wade Skinner)
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- Subject: Re: "Oversensitivity" (was: Film Comment and Film Threat)
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- Date: 18 Nov 92 04:14:19 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov14.153024.9034@news2.cis.umn.edu> donnell@tuna.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan) writes:
- >>Yes, and it seems utterly fasinating to me that *champions* of FT
- >>would utilize this pointless and low-brow form of reverse snobbery.
- >>Look, for example, at FT's interview with Clive Barker back in 1989,
- >>or at some of their stuff on Raimi. I'd call that pretentious bull-
- >>shit sooner than I'd call films I Hadn't Understood "meaningless."
-
- >First off, please get your messages straight. I said some of this, and
- >the Stainless Steel Moviegoer said some of it, but I don't believe he
- >was "championing" FT.
-
- O.K. I was responding to the post I saw. Enough said. Others I
- have encountered do use the argument to champion the most
- arrent nonsense in the name of "pretension-busting."
-
- >The Barker interview was pretentious Bullshit? Oh sorry, I thought it was a
- >good article with a hell of a lot more actual information on the man
- >Clive Barker, than any other I have seen. But, the more recent interview
- ><on the set of Hellraiser 3> was totally a waste.
-
- Well, if you read what I wrote, including the "pace" that I have
- deleted, you would realize that I didn't say the Barker interview was
- pretentious bullshit--only that I would sooner label it pretentious
- bullshit than I would the Seventh Seal. As it happens, I am of the
- opinion that while Clive came off well, his interviewer did come off
- as an ass of the first water.
-
- >Also, who else has used Barker's artwork to illustrate an article?
- >Who among us knew that he did artwork?
-
- Well, I *own* some of his art, so can I play?
-
- >And I never claimed that it was the best, or hell, even that good anymore.
- >I just said I liked it better than "Film Comment".
- >I'm not the one who has gotten on a soapbox and felt the need to make
- >large defenses of someone's work...
-
- And where have I done that? I merely wish to draw attention to the
- fact that the emperor's new clothes argument often fails to satisfy.
-
-
- >As for Mad vs. Spy, I'll still take Mad, but Spy is wonderful!
-
- Hmm.
- > --Judex--
-
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