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- From: steve@crc.ricoh.COM (Stephen R. Savitzky)
- Newsgroups: alt.callahans
- Subject: Re: God and Science: The Ramblings of The Nightstalker
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- Date: 21 Nov 92 00:43:10 GMT
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- In-Reply-To: jpalmer@onetouch.COM's message of Thu, 19 Nov 92 17:15:39 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov19.171539.18292@onetouch.COM> jpalmer@onetouch.COM (John Palmer) writes:
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- The one thing that bothers me about relativism is that it
- seems to be demanding that you not judge a PERSON as evil for
- committting such and such an act, and does so by saying that the
- evil of the act is determined by the beliefs of the person.
-
- "I believe you are wrong here;" says the Mandelbear, "at least, this
- isn't what *I* mean by relativism. I'm perfectly willing to call
- somebody evil for committing actions which are evil by *my* standards,
- but not theirs. They, similarly, often call some of my actions evil
- (by *their* standards).
-
- "Relativism means that I have to grant them the validity of their
- moral evaluation of my actions, and they have to grant me my
- evaluation of theirs. The strong implication is that one should not
- attempt to compel another person to behave "morally", because morality
- is relative. One should only prevent people from behaving in a way
- which causes *injury* to other people.
-
- "Of course, the definitions of 'injury' and 'other people' are
- relative as well, and one ought to define them as *narrowly* as
- possible consistent with a smoothly-functioning society. For example,
- some people feel 'injured' when I express religious beliefs they
- disagree with, or when they suspect that I might be doing things *in
- private* that they consider evil.
-
- "The true meaning of 'freedom of speech' and 'freedom of religion' is
- that the U.S. Constitution specifically defines speech and religious
- practices as being non-injurious (with a few exceptions, though IMHO
- not few enough)."
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