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- From: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Speaker-to-Minerals)
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- Subject: Re: Science and god: Are they incompatible? If so, why?
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- Date: 18 Nov 92 16:22:33 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov18.014401.12174@muddcs.claremont.edu>, dgreen@jarthur.claremont.edu (David Green) writes:
- >In article <1ebl10INNol2@gap.caltech.edu> lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU writes:
- >->In article <1992Nov17.044659.16994@muddcs.claremont.edu>, dgreen@jarthur.claremont.edu (David Green) writes:
- >->>>Yet his article showed pretty strong signs that he wasn't even aware (as he
- >->>>was writing the piece) that there are other branches of Christianity.
- >->>
- >->>Those being? (If StM can demand examples, I think it's only fair that I be
- >->>able to as well.)
- >->
- >->To name a few:
- > [list deleted]
- >I meant, what are the signs, not what are the branches.
-
- Sorry. My mistake. Well, lets see now: First, there's his use of the phrase
- "The Christian faith." Note the use of the singular. There are quite a few
- different Christian faiths, some of them consistently at each others' throats.
- For example, Jehovah's Witnesses do not recognize Mormons as Christians.
- There's NS's statement that "Christianity gives purpose but not all the
- answers." Contrast this with one of the justifications given historically for
- book-burning, to wit, that all books other than the Bible are either
- superfluous or wrong, since if they agree with the Bible, they're superfluous,
- and if they don't agree with the Bible, they're obviously wrong. He adds that
- "the evolution vs. creation debate is an old one, but unnecessary." There are
- quite a few Christians in the southern United States who'd very strongly
- disagree with that claim. He further states "The main point of the beginning
- of Genesis is to show how order arose out of chaos, and thus since evolution is
- exactly that sort of process, the two accounts agree." Again, there are
- substantial numbers of Christians who would vociferously disagree with this
- claim.
-
- He concludes with "Thus, claims by Christianity must be dealt with on its own
- ground," once again treating Christianity as if there were a single uniform
- faith that all Christians subscribed to.
-
- Now, as near as I can tell, either it never occurred to Nightstalker that there
- are a lot of Christians out there who'd take strong exception to some of his
- claims about Christianity, or else he simply dismissed them as "not REAL
- Christians."
-