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- From: mwasson@minnie.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Michael Wasson)
- Subject: Re: God and Science: The Ramblings of The Nightstalker
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- Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 01:21:55 GMT
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- >actions. But, I consider the idea that, say, genocide or torture is
- >merely a matter of different but equally valid moral standards to be
- >an absurdity. Many people find it possible not to find it absurd, but
- >since that's the crux of why _I'm_ not a relativist (and therefore why I
- >think there is a universal moral meaning in human actions)
- >disagreements here don't seem to be able to go any further."
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- "Hmm. One argument I've heard against moral relativism goes like this:
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- If I say, 'I believe the world is flat,' that's a *claim* that the
- world is, in fact, flat. You wouldn't say 'I believe the world is
- flat but I'm wrong.' Moral relativists seem to be saying something
- quite like that in the realm of normative truths. 'I personally
- believe that X is wrong, though it may not be wrong for somebody else'
- is just like saying 'I believe the world is flat but it may not be
- flat for somebody else'. By this argument, moral relativism is not
- distinct from moral nihilism -- itself a consistent enough position if
- you care to adopt it, but one most moral relativists would (I think)
- shy away from."
-
- Gecko-boy sips contemplatively from his Dos Equis.
-
- "The scary thing is, I got this argument from my *mom*, who just
- did her master's work in philosophy. I myself switched out of
- that major while the going was good.... ;-)"
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