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- From: jim@apsicc.aps.edu (frost...)
- Subject: Re: Reply to some stuff
- Message-ID: <16NOV199211145552@apsicc.aps.edu>
- Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 18:14:00 GMT
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- In article <1e5cd1INN7gt@cat.cis.Brown.EDU>, ST201434@brownvm.brown.edu (jude) writes...
- >First of all, yes, Mike, this is being posted, since it is a reply to lots
- >of other posts. If anyone else out there feels that what i say is
- >inappropriate or not being "nice", as Mike put it, please let me know.
- >
- > First of all, I understand what all of you are saying about the social
- >stigma of homosexuality. I mean, obviously there is prejudice. Yes, many
- >boys grow up fearing what there friends will think. I never said that was not
- >true. Hoewever, doesn't there come a time when you outgrow these things? No,
- >maybe a 13 year old boy does not have the social maturity, experience, and
- >self-confidence to stand up for what is wrong, but why not a grown man? The
- >prejudice against homosexuals is just as wrong as racism or any other kind of
- >hate. It cannot be justified by saying, oh, i'm homophobic, and maybe that's
- >not great, but everyone is, so that's okay. The fact that everyone is is NOT
- >okay. But as long as noone stands up and says something, it won't stop.
- >
- > -jude :-( dammit, why?
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- Jude,
- I have been following this thread for a while and while it is rather
- against my better judgement to say so. I think there is another item
- involved in many men preferring not to be massaged ny other males. There
- is distrust and of a very high order in some cases that can almost never
- be dismissed. This is in cases where at some point in their lives a male
- (generally a young boy) has been sexually abused by another male. This
- usually involves a person trusted deeply by the victim up until that
- point and can forever cloud male to male relationships after that. The
- reason I said it was against my better judgement to bring this up is that
- it happened to me at a very young age and it was only through a very long
- period of therapy that I was able to finally start bringing up the memories
- but I still just can't allow touching easily unless I trust the person very
- highly and normally females are easier for me to relate to. Even then I
- need to be able to know them and feel very comfortable with the person.
- I do agree with many of your opinions but this is an area I felt I had to
- express myself in. Thank you for listening as this isn't easy to say.
- Jim
-