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- From: sheehan@pagosa.scd.ucar.edu (Tim Sheehan)
- Subject: Re: To amy young: Thank your lucky star ...
- Message-ID: <1992Jul27.225746.27806@ncar.ucar.edu>
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- Organization: NCAR/UCAR
- References: <1992Jul24.224422.1503@brtph560.bnr.ca>
- Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 22:57:46 GMT
- Lines: 72
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- In article <1992Jul24.224422.1503@brtph560.bnr.ca>, kimmyd@bnr.ca (Kimmy Posey P920) writes:
- > ... that God created lithium bicarbonate. And that I was taught to respect
- > women regardless of their behavior or their left-handed bleeding-heart-liberal,
- > there-there-poor-baby-you're-just-misunderstood-and-terribly-terribly-confused
- > attitudes. Otherwise I might say something very ugly. You are so, so wrong
- > when you say I want to sweep the problem of rape under the carpet. WRONG LADY!
- > I WANT TO NUKE IT OFF THE FACE OF THE FREAKIN' PLANET!
-
- > When I posted here it
- > was because I felt that this group was intended as a place to discuss rape as
- > it applys to the victims. It seemed to me that there was to much support for
- > the rapist instead. You certainly haven't changed that opinion.
-
- One of the purposes of this group is to discuss how to prevent rape. There are
- many approaches to this. Some are more direct (e.g. kill all rapists) than others
- (e.g. reform rapists through therapy). I have not seen any post in this group
- that supports rapists. I haven't seen anything that says "Yeah! Let rapists go
- free, they're not hurting anybody." I haven't seen one post that blames the victims.
-
- I get the sense that everyone who posts here feels strongly that rape is all too
- common. I would venture to say that everyone who posts on this group or reads it
- wants to see more done to prevent rape. The difference comes with how they propose
- to do that.
-
-
- > Rapist don't
- > deserve support. Other than someone to hold the chair they are standing in
- > while the noose is slipped around their neck! And you're right I don't think
- > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
- > these posts out. Rape does not invoke a rational response from me. It invokes
- > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
- > a savage emotional one.
-
- Above you say that you first posted here because you felt this group "was intended
- as a place to discuss rape as it applys to the victims." 'Discussion' carries the
- conotation of calmness and rationality. In a forum dealing with such a sensitive
- subject as rape, thinking before writing is very important. Emotions run high, and
- many of the people who read and post in this group have been hurt by rape as
- as you and your wife have been.
-
-
- > Like if I were walking down the street and saw some
- > degenerate forcing himself on you I wouldn't think "Oh that poor misguided man,
- > Look how he is coping with our faulty society by raping that woman". NO WAY!
- > I'd rip his head off and ask questions later. I don't know if you have ever
- > been raped. I hope not. I doubt that you have judging from your attitude.
- > I feel sure that if some 250 pound whacko drank a couple of gallons of beer and
- > then broke into your house forced himself on you then you might think a little
- > differently. I hope it never happens. But just a word of advice. Be very
- > careful about who you call an ignorant boob. You never know who might be on
- > the other end of the network. It might be some 6'2'' tall, 225 lb. manic-
- > depressive with less than 5% body fat and nothin' left to lose.
- >
-
- I know you have already apologized for the fact that this last portion could be
- taken as a threat, but again, THINK OF YOUR READERSHIP. How would you like it if
- someone said the above to a victim of rape that you love? How upsetting would that
- be for someone who has been the victim of traumatic violence? Statements such as
- this one can have a chilling effect not only on the one for whom it was intended
- but also on others.
-
- I realize you have a confrontational nature, you've stated that and shown it. I'm
- also aware of the pain you are going through and the intense emotions it causes.
- These facts make it that much more important to think your posts out. Rape has
- already caused too much pain in this world. The discussion of how to prevent it
- should not cause more.
-
- --
- -Tim-
-
- sheehan@ncar.ucar.edu
-
-