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- From: dcrosgr@uoft02.utoledo.edu
- Newsgroups: talk.rape
- Subject: Re: Rape (what else?)
- Message-ID: <1992Jul22.083929.8834@uoft02.utoledo.edu>
- Date: 22 Jul 92 08:39:29 EST
- References: <1992Jul18.100908.8742@uoft02.utoledo.edu> <1992Jul21.153235.8496@leland.Stanford.EDU> <1992Jul21.141426.8814@uoft02.utoledo.edu> <1992Jul22.042649.1651@leland.Stanford.EDU>
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- In article <1992Jul22.042649.1651@leland.Stanford.EDU>, farthing@leland.Stanford.EDU (ljf) writes:
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- >>Yes, but your significant other has not handcuffed you and dragged you into the
- >>diner. Nor have they forced you to see Hudson Hawk. You consented by going in
- >>with them.
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- > My point in those scenes was to say that if some hetero men are really
- > confused about date rape, they can behave sexually with the same
- > concern with which they behave in nonsexual situations. I can't
- > imagine any man that concerned with date rape dating a woman and
- > ignoring her when she says no to Chinese food or a Bruce Willis movie.
- > Why ignore her wishes when she says no to sex?
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- Hmmm. Probably some truth to that. I would believe that fits mor einto the mold
- of abusive relationship where the male does as he pleases. I have seen enough
- relationships where the total jerk is dating someone nice, and he ignores and
- verbally abuses her her in public. I suppose if she were to say no to sex,
- he'd probably go forward anyway.
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- > Unfortunately, my wording of that first sentence says just the
- > opposite of what I meant. I intended it to read that date rape is
- > more often not "Well, I said no, but he insisted and I felt helpless,"
- > but a pinning down or beating of the victim.
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- True.
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- DC
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