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- From: dcrosgr@uoft02.utoledo.edu
- Newsgroups: talk.rape
- Subject: Re: Kristen's Question (off the track a bit)
- Message-ID: <1992Jul21.140805.8813@uoft02.utoledo.edu>
- Date: 21 Jul 92 14:08:05 EST
- References: <1992Jul16.142628.8687@uoft02.utoledo.edu> <BrJEwI.I7r@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> <SCG.92Jul20184952@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> <Brqu97.Awy@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
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- In article <Brqu97.Awy@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, seiffe@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Erica Seiffert) writes:
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- >
- > Excuse me, but I think you have missed the point of my
- > post. I am NOT saying that women who fantasize about being raped
- > want to be raped. I certainly don't. I'm saying that there are
- > people out there that do believe that's what a woman wants. I'm saying
- > that there is a rape myth out there and posting statistics about rape
- > fantasies without mentioning the control factor (ie people are in
- > control when they fantasize versus not being in control when they are
- > being raped) can lend support to their false belief. That's
- > my opinion. DC doesn't agree with me.
- >
- Not only Do I disagree, but I think that line of reasoning is dangerous. If you
- post your belief that someone who reads a rape fantasy statistic will be more
- inclined to believe a woman who wants to be raped, then someone who reads that
- will have it in their mind that someone who sees such stats now has a new
- scapegoat. Hell, you think the uniformed are more likely to go out and rape as
- a result of reading that information.
-
- If a rapist can show he saw such stats without a warning, thus leading him to
- believe women wanted to be raped, and he uses your logic in court, should he be
- found not guilty?
-
- He raped. Place them blame on his actions. Not, a posting of rape fantasies. We
- live in a country where everbody blames someone for the wrong things they
- themselves have done.
-
- I don't buy it.
-
- >>
- >>
- >>>Don't get me wrong, posting statics on rape fantasies is educates
- >>>people on an interesting happening in the human psyche, but, I hate
- >>>to see these findings used as justification for rape.
- >>
- > Of course there is no justification for rape (perhaps that was
- > a poor choice of wording on my part). Perhaps I should phase my
- > sentiment this way, "I hate to see these findings used to validate
- > a rape myth."
- >
- But by saying the warnings need to be posted, you validate the rape-cause
- myth the rapist uses to prove "She wanted it." He finds a post without warnings
- and says he read it. Then he argues the same argument you are using, "Warnings
- should have been given."
-
- Do you want him to use the same argument you are making?
-
- DC
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