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- From: blagdon@engin.umich.edu (Kenneth James Clark )
- Subject: Re: Leasing land (was Re: What, if anything, is a wetland?)
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- Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 13:05:25 EDT
- Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
- References: <TSF.92Jul24110046@U.ERGO.CS.CMU.EDU>
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- In article <TSF.92Jul24110046@U.ERGO.CS.CMU.EDU> tsf@CS.CMU.EDU (Timothy Freeman) writes:
- >
- >I'm sure that with a million dollars and creative chemistry (and lots
- >of generated pollution), the plastic in my keyboard could be
- >transformed into something resembling crude oil. Who decides how
- >close to the original state the keyboard needs to be returned?
-
- That's why I said it gets turned into plastic pellets that get turned
- into another keyboard. Weren't you reading?
-
- >I've lost track of the purpose of this proposal. It seems to lead to
- >the destruction of a perfectly good keyboard. Why is this a good
- >thing? Apparently the original state is better than the new state
- >just because it is the original state? Why?
-
- If it's a perfectly good keyboard, there's no reason to get rid of it.
- Why are you trying to get rid of a perfectly good keyboard? (You
- seem to be confusing things, I might as well too.)
-
- > You don't. You get what utility you can out of the ditch while you are
- > leasing the land. When you leave you are required to bring the land back
- > to its original state, or pay to have that done. Ie, you fill in the
- > ditch and replant the ground with whatever kind of plant you removed (or
- > at least some native plants) to make the ditch. If you don't expect
- > to get enough utility out of the ditch, don't dig it.
- >
- >And if the next person who leases the land needs a ditch in the same
- >place for the same reason I needed it, then the ditch gets filled in
- >and redug? Why bother? What's the point?
-
- If the next person wants a ditch there, they will accept responsibility
- for it and they will reimburse you for the security deposit you paid
- the community when you dug the ditch. This is worked out when you
- sell the property. If the next owner wants the ditch to remain, it
- never gets filled in. If the next owner doesn't want the ditch, you
- fill it back in or the community uses your deposit to fill it back in.
-
- The same with leased property now, if you put in a window air-conditioner
- that the landlord doesn't like, you are expected to remove it when you
- leave, unless the next tenant decides they like it. Then they tell the
- landlord, and buy the unit from you and leave it.
-
- Ken
- >--
- >Tim Freeman <tsf@cs.cmu.edu> CompuServe ID 71045,2267 checked occasionally.
- >When they took the fourth amendment, I was silent because I don't deal drugs.
- >When they took the sixth amendment, I kept quiet because I know I'm innocent.
- >When they took the second amendment, I said nothing because I don't own a gun.
- >Now they've come for the first amendment, and I can't say anything at all.
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