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- From: jmc@SAIL.Stanford.EDU (John McCarthy)
- Subject: Re: "Keep Your Pollution!" (Article)
- In-Reply-To: pauld@cs.washington.edu's message of Wed, 29 Jul 92 18:45:12 GMT
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- British exploitation of their colonies was more than compensated for
- by the introduction of railroads, capitalism and a proper legal system.
- The real damage that Britain did to its former colonies occurred towards
- the end of its rule and was the propagation of the ideology of the
- British Labour Party. That probably did even more harm in the former
- colonies than it did in Britain. In many of them it still dominates,
- as is shown by the Maneka Gandhi nonsense.
-
- As for Paul Barton-Davis's guilt feelings, I started to write
- a parody of the Hippopotamus Song by Flanders and Swan. It's
- chorus goes
-
- Guilt, guilt, middle class guilt
- Whether it's milk or it's blood that's been spilt
- Come follow me, follow, to where we will wallow,
- Yes, we will wallow in middle class guilt.
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- Pehaps he or someone else will help complete the guilt song.
- The Labour Party could sing it at congresses in place of The Red Flag;
- it would lose them fewer votes.
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- Somehow I doubt the sincerity of Barton-Davis's claim that the left
- Britain for political reasons. It's possible, but I still doubt it.
-
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- As to the United Nations, the democracies dominated the UN when it
- was first formed, about through the end of the Korean War. After
- that, the Security Council was stalemated until the collapse of
- communism when it again became dominated by the democracies.
- After the Korean War, poisonous Third World politics came to dominate
- the General Assembly abetted by the communists. It still dominates
- it. It seems to me that the greatest triumph of ideology over interest
- in history occurred when the poor nations supported the rise in oil
- prices that further impoverished them, perhaps on the basis of some
- vague notion that it would hurt the developed world more.
-
- Finally exactly what countries do you claim were "screwed over by the west"
- and in what way?
-
- Specifically, what about Puerto Rico? Do you demand its independence
- from the U.S. in opposition to the great majority of its inhabitants.
- Independence got 6 percent in the last election, and the country is
- divided between those who want statehood and those who want to preserve
- the economic privileges of it present "commonwealth" status.
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- John McCarthy, Computer Science Department, Stanford, CA 94305
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- He who refuses to do arithmetic is doomed to talk nonsense.
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