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- From: steinly@topaz.ucsc.edu (Steinn Sigurdsson)
- Newsgroups: talk.environment
- Subject: Re: URGENT: MT. GRAHAM ACTION ALERT!!
- Message-ID: <STEINLY.92Jul26151654@topaz.ucsc.edu>
- Date: 26 Jul 92 22:16:54 GMT
- References: <keQjpNi00UhWM2SXEc@andrew.cmu.edu>
- Organization: Lick Observatory/UCO
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- In-reply-to: Joshua Alan Knauer's message of Sun, 26 Jul 1992 15:30:33 -0400
-
- In article <keQjpNi00UhWM2SXEc@andrew.cmu.edu> Joshua Alan Knauer <jk71+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
-
- On 26-Jul-92 in Re: URGENT: MT. GRAHAM ACTI..
- Lord John McCarthy@SAIL.Stanf speaks for all:
- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
- If you're going to pull crap like that, expect to take serious heat
- ;-) Hope you can take it :-)
-
- >point - that the environmentalists, just as much as business
- >and government, owe the public impact statements about their
- >proposals that would include negative impacts. For this reason,
-
- These full impact statements are all available through the number
- previously listed.
-
- The point is they are _not_ "full" impact statements.
-
- John- "We" (whoever that is) owe nothing to you. This newsgroup is
- intended for environmentalists that are concerned about the future of
- the earth in the hands of the "let's wait and see" people like you.
-
- No it is not. Please keep a distinction between the Usenet group
- talk.environment and whatever local net you're feeding. talk.env
- is for discussion about environmental issues, participanst do not
- have to be concerned about any damn thing at all.
-
- I also wonder what the other people on this newsgroup feel. John seems
- to feel that he speaks for the masses, I sincerely hope that not all of
- the people on the net are similar in thought to him.
-
- It is usually a good idea to _read_ a newsgroup for a while before
- starting to post on it. In particular if you're going to be bringing
- up old fights. The Mt Graham issue has been raised several times here
- in the past, and I am quite astonished that it is still being brought
- up, it's been reviewed, analysed and fought out in court, is there
- anything that would lead to the opponents accepting that they were
- just maybe a wrong on this, that there will be no lasting damage
- to the mountain, that the observatory might even be benficial, and
- that this issue was actually studied by people who knew what they
- were doing (even if they had terrible PR agents)? What's the point of
- a review system and a legal system if every time an issue is decided
- in a way you do not favour you simply raise a new and different
- challenge?
-
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