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- Organization: Penn State University
- Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 11:23:50 EDT
- From: <MEK104@psuvm.psu.edu> Mark Kubiske
- Message-ID: <92204.112350MEK104@psuvm.psu.edu>
- Newsgroups: talk.environment
- Subject: Re: Native People's leadership
- Lines: 55
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- in <1992Jul19.143145.5665@iscsvax.uni.edu> duneman 7484@iscsvax.uni.edu
- writes
-
- >Just a thought to ponder, at least: ... Looking for ways to make the
- >environmental movement work *before* "it's too late." It is agreed, I'm
- >sure, that the main source of this enviro-horror is the "West's" total
- >absence of CONNECTION to the Earth and it's beauty. We've ransacked the
- >Earth'sresources for our own material excesses with no thought as to what
- >we were destroying. Now, who can give us the leadership to guide us
- >through this mess ... Native peoples. The indigineous peoples of the
- world - NOT >the conquerors and destroyers.
-
- Several points to respond to here. I flatly reject your notion that all of
- the environmental problems in the world today are the result of "western"
- civilization. Are you suggesting that the countries of the mideast and far
- east are more "environmentally sensitive" than we are? Why don't you take a
- trip to China and check out the mess they've made of their forests. Your
- statement that all of the worlds environmental problems is the fault of the
- "West" is far from agreed upon - it is primarily the environmental
- extremests and radicals that subscribe to your accusation. Secondly, I
- don't know of anyone who does not fit the description of "indigineous
- peoples of the world". Do you think that some of us came from outer space?
- Actually, I'm being facetious, I know who you're talking about. What you
- mean is Native Americans, Native Aficans, South American Indians, etc. and
- you are placing the blame squarely on the Europeans who settled the
- Americas. What you fail to mention are all of the benefits that you now
- enjoy from that migration. One of the reasons that that the Native
- Americans were "at one" with their environment was that they simply had no
- choice. Why did the plains Indians havest so few bison, and use virtually
- all of each carcass? Simply because it is very difficult for a hunter on
- foot with primitive weapons to kill a bison. Life was very hard, famine and
- disease were well known and an "old age" was mid-thirties. Quite a
- paradise.
-
-
- As far as Native Americans as environmental leaders today, there is an
- excellent example of what you're talking about in the Menominee Indian Tribe
- of Wisconsin. The Menominee saw the resource potential in their forests of
- Northern Wisconsin and wanted to - not preserve - but conserve this
- resource. That is to say, they wanted to utilize the resource in a
- sustainable manner. They entered into an arrangement with the Wisconsin
- Department of Natural Resources to design and impliment a forest management
- plan, which includes timber harvesting. One point here is that the
- Menominee people realised that it was not only impractical to simply
- preserve their forests, but it was undesirable as well. Another point is
- that they lacked the expertise to design a forest management plant so they
- sought the foresters and land managers of the Wisc. DNR for help. Guess
- what ... most of them are of European descent. So there is one example of
- Native American leadership - ideas that are in direct agreement with the
- goals of forest management policies in general. The success of this program
- is not unique. State and federal forest agencies have been implimenting
- successful sustained yield management plans on state, federal and private
- forests for many years.
-
- Mark.
-