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- From: forgach@noao.edu (Suzanne Forgach)
- Subject: Re: Catholics: Is the Fetus Ensouled?
- Message-ID: <1992Jul31.201627.202@noao.edu>
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- Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 20:16:27 GMT
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- From article by steven@jaynes.uswest.com ( Steve Novak):
- >
- > Do Catholics on t.a. agree that the fetus is not ensouled?
-
- Not at all, especially since Catholics believe that Mary was the
- Immaculate Conception, that is, from the moment of her conception she
- had no sin on her soul. Now how could her soul have been spotless
- if she didn't have one?
-
-
- > This was the
- > position staked out by Pope Pius IX.
-
- Many church fathers used to speculate on the nature of life before birth,
- but all of them made it clear that _none_ of those speculations were to be
- abused by _anyone_ in an to attempt to justify abortion at _any_ stage.
-
-
- > I've seen several Catholics say
- > otherwise in t.a.
-
- You bet.
-
-
- > Now, The Pius IV proclamation that said this was a change to the C.C.'s
- > abortion position; I'm not aware of a further "ruling".
-
- There was never a change on the Church's abortion position.
- There was only an end to the speculation by some Church fathers on
- the full nature of prenatal life.
-
-
- Suzanne Forgach
-