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- From: chaneysa@nextnet.csus.edu (Stephen A Chaney)
- Subject: Re: One sure way to prevent a teen abortion? (was Re: Governor Casey for '96 President?
- Message-ID: <1992Jul31.190913.29749@csus.edu>
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- Organization: California State University: Sacramento
- References: <1992Jul28.145831.657@pwcs.stpaul.gov> <1992Jul29.003446.28628@csus.edu> <1992Jul29.144146.19968@pwcs.stpaul.gov>
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- Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 19:09:13 GMT
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- In article <1992Jul29.144146.19968@pwcs.stpaul.gov> chrisl@stpaul.gov (Chris A Lyman) writes:
- >chaneysa@nextnet.csus.edu (Stephen A Chaney) writes:
- >> chrisl@stpaul.gov (Chris A Lyman) writes:
- >>> chaneysa@nextnet.csus.edu (Stephen A Chaney) writes:
- >>>> chrisl@stpaul.gov (Chris A Lyman) writes:
- >>>>> chaneysa@nextnet.csus.edu (Stephen A Chaney) writes:
- >
- >>>>>> Some parents have VERY strong feelings about their daughters not
- >>>>>> having abortions.
- >>>>>> Some parents resort to illegal means by issuing threats.
- >
- >>>>> Like, "If I ever find out that you're pregnant, I'll kill you?"
- >>>>> A kinder, gentler enforcement of wholesome traditional family
- >>>>> values, wouldn't you say?
- >
- >>>> That's illegal. And it would prompt her to kill the baby by abortion.
- >
- >>> Of course. But here you demonstrate more concern for the fetus than
- >>> for the daughter.
- >
- >> The daughter ain't being killed; the fetus is.
- >> So I show more concern for the victim who might die, than I show
- >> concern for the victimizer. Ooooh, gee, that's a _horrible_ principle!
- >
- >'Scuse me, isn't the daughter more of a victim in your little scenario?
- >Let's recast your last sentence, using more accurate terminology:
- >
- >*** So I show more concern for the fetus who might die, than I show
- >*** concern for the teenage daughter. Ooooh, gee, that's a _horrible_
- >*** principle!
- >
- >I agree; that's a _horrible_ principle!
-
- If you consider one's emotional well being to be sufficient to kill
- another innocent human being, you're worse off than I thought.
-
- A daughter's hurt feelings are nothing compared to killing someone else
- who didn't do anything to deserve dying. Just because she cries and
- whines does not mean I'll say, "Okay, kill them." She has to be facing
- death or injury, and the fetus does not meet those two requirements,
- 99% of the time.
-
- >[--deletions--]
- >
- >There's a lot of your family squabbles tied into the rest of the
- >article, Steve, and I don't feel comfortable getting into it. For
- >what it's worth, I think that your willingness to make a daughter's
- >life miserable for the sake of a dubious-at-best principle stinks.
-
- To kill someone else's life to make her happy, is universally illegal
- and grossly wrong.
-
- Abortion falls squarely into that context, and if that fact were made
- known to legislators, it would be justly banned outright.
-
- >At a time like that, the last thing a daughter of yours would need
- >is a parent barking the party line in her face. Repeatedly affir-
- >ming love and support is the way to go, Steve, especially if you
- >want her to visit you when you're old and gray.
-
- Well, at least I'll have the option of worrying about whether she'll
- visit me or not. If I don't apply adequate pressure, there might be
- one unborn child that'll never have the opportunity to see daylight -
- she'll go out and kill him/her with hardly a second thought
- afterwards.
-
- Short of physical force (which is illegal), any pressure that prevents
- that kind of killing, is perfect as long as it results in keeping that
- unborn child alive and safe from what could have been a girl intent on
- killing them.
-
- >--
- >Chris Lyman - a personal / "I belong to no organized
- >opinion for every occasion / political party. I am a
- >email: chrisl@pwcs.stpaul.gov / Democrat." -- Will Rogers
-
-
- ===============================================================================
- Question: If you don't have truck bombs and thousands of fanatics to
- sacrifice their lives and drive them, how do you scare a
- nation into giving in to your demands?
-
- Answer: Buy coat hangers and encourage women to kill themselves
- with them and call yourself "pro-choice".
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