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- From: garvin+@cs.cmu.edu (Susan Garvin)
- Newsgroups: talk.abortion
- Subject: Re: THE REAL LOWDOWN ON "CLOT," "CLUMP OF CELLS," AND "FETUS"
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- Message-ID: <1992Jul30.232652.42242@cs.cmu.edu>
- Date: 30 Jul 92 23:26:52 GMT
- References: <1992Jul27.164001.4246@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> <1992Jul27.185527.85462@cs.cmu.edu> <1992Jul28.151803.7987@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>
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- In article <1992Jul28.151803.7987@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> fusco@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Andrew Fusco) writes:
- #garvin+@cs.cmu.edu (Susan Garvin) writes:
- #
- ##In article <1992Jul27.164001.4246@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> fusco@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Andrew Fusco) writes:
- #
- ###I've heard that the Schenck's fetus was actually a victim of a type
- ###of late term abortion called a prostoglandin abortion. This is occasionally
- ###used for late term fetuses. It is injected into the woman, and the
- ###hormone then artificially induces abortion, resulting in a stillbirth.
- ###If that's the case, then there is no deception.
- #
- ##Nyikos claimed that, since abortions can be either spontaneous
- ##or induced, there was no deception involved if the fetus were
- ##in fact stillborn rather than the result of an induced abortion,
- ##since the didn't say specifically that the abortion was
- ##induced. I argued that the Schencks had indeed claimed that
- ##the abortion was induced. You seem to be supporting my argument,
- ##yet you claim no deception. Care to try again?
- #
- #I would argue that there is no deception if the fetus in question
- #was the result of an any artificial abortion. If the child was stillborn
- #due to a spontaneous abortion, unassisted by an abortionist, then I
- #believe it would be deceptive to claim that the fetus was a "victim" of
- #abortion. So there, I guess I agree with you after all!
-
- I thought that you'd missed my point.
-
- #Nevertheless, one could argue that Schenck's primary purpose was to
- #impress upon people what a fetus looks like before an late term abortion.
- #No matter how deceptive his language may have been, it would never change
- #the fact that he was holding a real human fetus.
-
- Maybe Schenck could argue that - I don't think that it's
- at all productive to speculate about his (or, their) unspoken
- motives.
-
- (I wonder why either Schenck would feel the need to show
- people what a fetus looks like before a late term abortion,
- though, since no such abortions were taking place in Buffalo.)
-
- Susan
-