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- Subject: Re: Abortion is Murder!!!
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- From: adams@spss.com (Steve Adams)
- Date: 28 Jul 92 15:32:05 GMT
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- jxs52@po.CWRU.Edu (Jonathan Sheir) writes:
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- >I don't understand how you people can even debate such a clear cut issue.
- Clear cut to you, perhaps. It's not. Look specifically at the law, and
- then at Romans 13. While I beleive that abortion is wrong, I can't impose
- this view on others. If I convince them, fine. Otherwise, I must follow
- the law.
-
- >Abortion is murder and there is no way to deny it.
- Sure there is. Abortion is legal. Killing a person is not.
-
- >These supposed "Pro-Choice" people are supporting the killing of little
- >babies. To me, the ironic thing is that many of the Liberal supporters of
- >abortion are the ones that oppose the death penalty and believe animal rights
- >are more important than human's.
- The death penalty is carried out against 'persons' as defined under our
- laws. As such, there is no inconsistancy. Our law doesn't define an
- unborn child as a person. No matter how fervently I believe that, it
- doesn't make it so. I oppose abortion. But I can't impose my moral values
- on someone else. You have to show me a person, as defined under the law
- (remember Romans 13) and then I'll agree it should be outlawed. Or, you
- have to define an unborn child as a person. From an non-religious, medical
- perspective, that's fairly easy to do for a fetus that has reached
- viability. Before that, no chance. It's a religious/moral position that
- society has no general agreement on.
-
- >I just pray to the Lord above that those Liberal tax and spenders
- >Gore and Clinton do not get in the White House. George Bush is this country's
- >last hope before the liberals and the homosexuals take over.
- You really are out of touch, aren't you? Clinton is hardly a 'liberal' by
- the usual definition. And Bush certainly isn't a conservative. You're
- being taxed & spent to death right now. What's your point?
-
- If you're talking about Bush's 'pro-life' stand - remember, he suffered a
- convention-conversion! He was pro-choice until Reagan asked him to be VP,
- and then he came over. If he gets reelected, I expect him to drop his
- opposition to RvW. Don't believe it? Remember 'Read my lips, no new
- taxes'??? NOT!
-
- >If this country is not careful, it is going to feel the wrath of God, and it
- >will not be pretty.
- Oh really? Showing love and tollerance for everyone is going to bring down
- God's wrath? I hardly think so. Jesus hung out with the scum of the earth
- in his day..."Tax collectors and 'sinners'"...and fishermen wheren't
- exactly thought to be the most intelligent men around...and they preached
- the Gospel! Just where do you think Christ would be ministering today???
-
- -Steve
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