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- From: keegan@pan.crd.ge.com (James G Keegan Jr)
- Newsgroups: talk.abortion
- Subject: Re: Bill, admit the point before changing the subject.
- Message-ID: <1992Jul28.145913.22416@crd.ge.com>
- Date: 28 Jul 92 14:59:13 GMT
- References: <1992Jul27.211042.28852@acd4.acd.com>
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- Reply-To: james g keegan jr <keegan@crd.ge.com>
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- Disclaimer: i speak for myself only, unless noted otherwise
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- wdo@TEFS1.acd.com (Bill Overpeck) writes:
- -> In <1992Jul24.113957.19769@crd.ge.com> keegan@pan.crd.ge.com
- -> (James G Keegan Jr) writes: >
- -> wdo@TEFS1.acd.com (Bill Overpeck) writes: >>
- -> I've trimmed this significantly but tried to retain the most
- -> relevant parts.
- ->
- -> >>>>> are you suggesting there is something wrong with
- -> >>>>> pointing out hypocrisy?
- -> >
- -> >>>> Not if one is above engaging in it.
- -> >
- -> >>>so you agree, finally, that there was nothing wrong with my
- -> >>>pointing out siren's hypocrisy?
- -> >
- -> >> You're above engaging in hypocrisy? Does that mean you've
- -> >> never committed a hypocritical act or just that you don't
- -> >> do it anymore? Either answer is impressive.
- -> >
- -> >as it should be. don't you think that if it were a simply
- -> >matter to point out my hypocrisy here, someone would have
- -> >been happy to do so? but no one has. that should answer your
- -> >question.
- ->
- -> I hate to see people set themselves up like this.
-
- do you hate it as much as you hate this discussion?
-
- -> >give it up bill. you lost your point of painting adrienne as
- -> >a vilifier of you long ago.
- ->
- -> I think I proved it nicely. Funny how perceptions differ.
-
- isn't differing perceptions what i suggested to you in my first
- reply? that was, of course several iterations back.
-
- -> >>> [...] adrienne did what several others did. she posted
- -> >>> good wishes for phil's son.
- -> >
- -> >> Come on, Jim. What a crock. She did no such thing.
- -> >
- -> >rather than carry thus further than one more iteration, why
- -> >don't you post one example that disproves my statement.
- ->
- -> Done. Ad nauseum.
- ->
- -> >>>> as in the case of all the other posts on phil's son, the
- -> >>>> posts were intended to be read by phil.
- -> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ <--------------------+
- -> > |
- -> >>>what's wrong with |
- -> >>>expressing good wishes about an offspring to a parent? |
- -> > |
- -> >> Nothing at all when the intent is clearly one of good will |
- -> >> and not laced with regrets about the kind of upbring the |
- -> >> child will be sub- ject to. |
- -> > |
- -> >who are you to determine someone else's intent? ---------------+
- ->
- -> Let's see now. You criticize my assumption immediately after
- -> having made one yourself. I thought you were above this
- -> hypocrisy stuff, Jim. I'm disappointed.
-
- come now bill. this "example" is even weaker than the evidence
- you tried to come up with on adrienne.
-
- -> >>> you are beginning to sound like you have a thing about
- -> >>>adrienne.
- -> >
- -> >> The post in question ranks right up there with some of the
- -> >> most malicious I've seen on Usenet.
- -> >
- -> >did you forget "marrying blacks is flaky" already, when that
- -> >remark was written to a white woman who was married to a
- -> >black man?
- -> >
- -> >did you forget some of suzanne's baby-killer accusations to
- -> >woman who have had abortions?
- ->
- -> Her comments (to Phil) are in good company with those you
- -> mention.
-
- according to who, bill? you? didn't you just say perceptions
- differ?
-
- -> >>>then just what are you trying to say bill?
- -> >
- -> >> That I don't like being vilified. :-)
- -> >
- -> >you haven't shown that you were.
- ->
- -> Disagree.
-
- that's your choice bill. i'd never take that away from you.
-
- -> >>>>> [...] if someone were to ask me to describe the way
- -> >>>>> your posts have been described to me over the years, it
- -> >>>>> would be "condescending."
- -> >
- -> >>>> Opinions vary.
- -> >
- -> >>> yes they do. and the expression of those differing
- -> >>> opinions should not always be interpreted as a personal
- -> >>> attack or a flame.
- -> >
- -> >> Apparently, though, you think it's fine to interpret them
- -> >> as condescending...
- -> >
- -> >i think it's interesting. whatever makes you think i think
- -> >it's "fine."
- ->
- -> The particular adjective is (obviously) irrelevant. The point
- -> is that you interpret me as condescending yet imply that I
- -> should not interpret Adrienne similarly. Or will you now deny
- -> that as well?
-
- you missed the point again bill. i never said i interpret you as
- condescending. i said others, several of them in fact, had
- described you to me as condescending. you should really be more
- careful with these mistaken allegations.
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