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- From: tjoa@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Richard Tjoa)
- Newsgroups: talk.abortion
- Subject: Re: I'm a bit pissed...
- Summary: Help! I'm trapped in this newsgroup!
- Keywords: I just spent the last 6 hours reading this damn newsgroup.
- Message-ID: <1992Jul28.092838.21340@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU>
- Date: 28 Jul 92 09:28:38 GMT
- References: <1992Jul24.011954.16225@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> <1992Jul27.221628.8079@csus.edu> <hbmm1db.ray@netcom.com>
- Sender: tjoa@cory.berkeley.edu (Myself)
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- In article <hbmm1db.ray@netcom.com> (Ray Fischer) writes:
- >In an article (Stephen A Chaney) writes ...
- >>FACT: The human heart beat does not begin at birth. It begins 3-4
- >>weeks after fertilization.
-
- Which means...? (We can have heart transplants. The owner of the heart is
- "dead", maybe, but the beat goes on. ie: it doesn't necessarily signal
- being alive or not)
-
- >>FACT: Surgical abortions, in 90-100% of all cases, are carried out
- >>after that.
-
- I'll buy that. What's your point?
-
- >>FACT: (Surgical) abortions stop a beating heart just as surely as a
- >>loaded handgun.
-
- Only if you CHOOSE to get an abortion, (or only if you choose to pull the
- trigger. And aim it at someone. And hit them in a vital area. And then
- they might not surely die. [No, I'm wrong--they will die, but won't we
- all?)
-
- >>FACT: You lost this battle.
-
- I wouldn't make unfounded leaps of logic...
-
- >FACT: Whether a heart is stopped during an abortion is utterly irrelevent.
- > People have known that personality, feelings, and thoughts don't reside
- > in the heart for quite some time now.
-
- (So, I guess RU486 would be a much better alternative, as your "beating
- heart" ["to show life"] test would not suffice.)
-
-
- -Richard
- Please, cut down on the posting! I can barely keep up!
-