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- From: tjoa@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Richard Tjoa)
- Newsgroups: talk.abortion
- Subject: Re: Meaning of "Abortion" (Re: Fetal Heartbeat)
- Summary: The value of life and death
- Keywords: abortion fetus-waving sex
- Message-ID: <1992Jul27.065605.20509@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU>
- Date: 27 Jul 92 06:56:05 GMT
- References: <1992Jul24.225816.17461@watson.ibm.com> <1992Jul26.224951.3065@wuecl.wustl.edu> <1992Jul27.001936.29387@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
- Sender: tjoa@cory.berkeley.edu (Me)
- Organization: You see, Burke Lee.
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- In <1992Jul27.001936.29387@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> (Galen J. Hekhuis) writes:
- >In <1992Jul26.224951.3065@wuecl.wustl.edu> (Don Porter) writes:
- >
- >}OK. If you want to insist on a broad usage of "abortion" you
- >}are absolutely right. The majority of abortions do not stop
- >}a heartbeat. However, you also have to concede the truth of
- >}several other statements when you demand this usage:
- >
- >}1. The majority of abortions are involuntary.
- >
- >}2. The majority of abortions involve women who are not pregnant.
-
- What the hell do they mean? (From the context, and by making an >gulp<
- assumption, I'd have to say that you mean "fertilized, non-implanted
- zygotes." But I digress from my post.)
-
- >}3. The fetus carried by Rev. Schenck at a protest a few weeks
- >} ago was the result of an abortion.
- >
- >It was statement #3 that made the issue rather clear, at least for
- >me. When I hear the word "abortion" I tend to think in the
- >general case. If someone were to bring something dead and "unborn"
- >to me (I can't imagine this one) I'd probably say it was an abortion.
- >If I were to be asked what Rev. Schenck was waving, I'd probably say
- >that I heard it was stillborn, not an abortion. Clearly, I have
- >at least two definitions for the term "abortion" and I tend to use
- >the one where I decide it should apply. Perhaps others do so also.
- >The difference might be in our criteria to apply context. Perhaps
- >that contributes to why we often talk past each other, rather than
- >to each other.
-
- Regardless, if Rev. Schenck values human life so much, why should he go
- swinging around the "fetus", like it was some kind of circus sideshow,
- instead of giving it a proper burial that it must deserve. Now that's
- exploitation...
-
-
- -Richard
- Life begins at fertilization? Not always...
-