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- From: kevin@rotag.mi.org (Kevin Darcy)
- Subject: Re: Fetal Heartbeat (Re: Supreme Court)
- Message-ID: <1992Jul26.231808.21215@rotag.mi.org>
- Organization: Who, me???
- References: <1992Jul25.171608.7421@watson.ibm.com>
- Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 23:18:08 GMT
- Lines: 43
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- In article <1992Jul25.171608.7421@watson.ibm.com> margoli@watson.IBM.com writes:
- >In <1992Jul25.054019.15284@rotag.mi.org> kevin@rotag.mi.org (Kevin Darcy) writes:
- >> In article <1992Jul24.234126.4841@watson.ibm.com> margoli@watson.ibm.com writes:
- >> >In <BrwyvJ.BuM@news.cso.uiuc.edu> slkg9733@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Steven L. Kellme
- >> >
- >> >> Induced abortion is the subject of this group, not spontaneous abortion.
- >> >
- >> >When did they rename it to "talk.abortion.induced"?
- >>
- >> Larry, put a sock in it.
- >
- >Funny, but I don't remember you telling anyone else to "put a sock in it"
- >when previous discussions of abortifacients arose.
-
- Persecution complex, Larry?
-
- >> in LEGAL terms, "abortion" always means an intentional, deliberate act.
- >> Since we discuss the legal and somewhat-related aspects of abortion here,
- >> "induced" would be redundant in the newsgroup name.
- >
- >It would also be incorrect, since it would rule out other discussion which
- >is appropriate for this group.
-
- In your opinion, that is. You've been wrong about t.a "appropriateness"
- issues before, Larry. How quickly you forget the big child-support fiasco...
-
- >As I mentioned earlier in this thread, I
- >agree that *generally* when we talk about abortion, we're referring to
- >induced abortion. However, it's important to remember that when many of
- >the Fanatic Fundies refer to banning abortion, they're including banning
- >the use of abortifacients - e.g., the birth control pill.
-
- Why must we reduce ourselves to their level of semantic violence, Larry?
- Banning abortion and banning the pill are two separate issues. I know that.
- You know that. If we allow them to control our semantics in this fashion,
- then we concede them a small victory, just as we concede a small semantic
- victory when we allow crap like "abortion kills a child" to pass without
- comment.
-
- Besides, Kellmeyer was AGREEING with you that "abortion" properly means
- "induced abortion". Why look a gift jackass in the mouth?
-
- - Kevin
-