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- From: wdo@TEFS1.acd.com (Bill Overpeck)
- Subject: Re: Well, I lost that article...
- Message-ID: <1992Jul24.192256.15039@acd4.acd.com>
- Sender: news@acd4.acd.com (USENET News System)
- Organization: Applied Computing Devices, Inc., Terre Haute IN
- Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 19:22:56 GMT
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- In <1992Jul23.003313.18002@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> kcochran@nyx.cs.du.edu
- (Keith "Justified And Ancient" Cochran) writes: >
-
- >[Me and Bill Overpeck were talking. I said that state schools should teach
- >children that their bodies are their own, and that nobody has the right to
- >use them against their wills.]
- >
- >[Bill asked, something along the lines of, so do you think the schools should
- >teach about abstinance?]
-
- Here's the article...
-
- (Subject: Re: State Teaching (formerly: Pro-Choice Position?))
-
- In <1992Jul8.010926.8658@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> kcochran@isis.cs.du.edu
- (Keith A. Cochran) writes: >
- In article <1992Jul6.210332.13220@acd4.acd.com> wdo@TEFS1.acd.com
- (Bill Overpeck) writes: >>
- In <1992Jul3.153144.2879@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> kcochran@isis.cs.du.edu
- (Keith A. Cochran) writes: >>>
-
- >>>>>If "the state" has to teach anything, it should be extensive human
- >>>>>biology/ sex ed/why _nobody_ should touch you there from grades K-12...
- >
- >>>>This, of course, would be "value neutral" education?
- >
- >>>Not at all. What it should be is fear-eliminating schooling. When an 8
- >>>year old girl understands what "her privates" are for, the odds of somebody
- >>>being able to molest her falls to a low. When a 7 year old boy understands
- >>>what "Uncle Timothy" is trying to do, and knows that he _can_ tell people
- >>>and be believed, the odds of him being sucessfully molested (multiple times)
- >>>falls drastically.
- >
- >>So you support the idea that values should be taught in the public
- >>school system? Interesting. Which values should we endorse? What
- >>criteria should we use to select the "right" values to teach?
- >
- >If they're going to teach it in terms of being the only 100% guaranteed,
- >foolproof method of avoiding pregnancy, and all STD's, yes.
- >
- >If they're going to teach it in terms of "Saving yourself for your future
- >husband/wife, because sex is for marriage", then no.
- >
- >If they're going to teach it in terms of "Six is ikky; be abstinant",
- >then no.
-
- Six *is* ikky - I prefer seven... :-)
-
- >If they're going to teach it in terms of "The Bible says..", then no.
-
- You've articulated some guidelines that, as you previously indicated,
- are anything but value neutral. What you haven't done is explain *why*
- your values are the right ones, which is a bit tougher. Are you willing?
-
- Bill
-