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- From: chaneysa@nextnet.csus.edu (Stephen A Chaney)
- Subject: Re: COERCED ABORTION [Can you help me polish this up?]
- Message-ID: <1992Jul24.002839.20051@csus.edu>
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- Organization: California State University: Sacramento
- References: <1992Jul23.070322.19014@cc.uow.edu.au> <1992Jul23.162158.9339@ncar.ucar.edu>
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- Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 00:28:39 GMT
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- In article <1992Jul23.162158.9339@ncar.ucar.edu> ilana@kiowa.scd.ucar.edu (Ilana Stern) writes:
- >In article <1992Jul23.070322.19014@cc.uow.edu.au>, nyikos@cc.uow.edu.au (peter nyikos) writes:
- >
- >[long article deleted, equating coerced abortion with rape]
- >
- >Fine. So abortion should be made illegal since some women are coerced
- >into having abortions.
- >
- >I take it you think that, since some women are raped, the solution to
- >this is to make all sex illegal, both consensual sex and rape?
-
- I knew this would come up as a response.
-
- This is by no means a stupid or innefectual response given what she
- was replying to.
-
- EXCEPT...
-
- You missed a tiny facet, Ilana: the reason pro-lifers seek to ban
- abortion is because abortion _always_ has a victim. Whether or not the
- woman is sad or glad in the future about it, the fetus (human fetus,
- member of the human species just like everyone else) is a victim and
- always ends up dying as a result.
-
- Precisely because the z/e/f dies, we are aiming to pass a Human Life
- Amendment which will grant them their right to live (which was a right
- of theirs since science first knew of their existence, in the
- 1860's-1870's).
-
- There's nothing wrong with sex, by the way: it's the issue of
- _KILLING_ for sex, that can be made illegal on a logically justifiable
- basis.
-
- Abortion is one of those _killing for sex_ situations. Or, maybe,
- killing _because_ of sex?
-
-
-
- By the way, Ilana, what would you do if your 16 year old daughter were
- sleeping with a 24 year old man? Would you oppose it? Ask this of
- fellow workers, or in your case (especially if DoD means Department of
- Defense), your fellow officers.
-
- Nowadays, especially in Florida, pro-choice means it's perfectly okay
- to do that...
-
- How's THAT for an intractibility?
-
- >--
- >/\ Ilana Stern DoD#009 | Whoever first said, "Things are seldom as they
- > \_][ ilana@ncar.ucar.edu | seem," was wrong. Things are usually as they
- > \_______________________| seem. Otherwise, they wouldn't seem that way.
-
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