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- From: dsh@csl36h.csl.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger)
- Subject: Re: MEN FOR CHOICE.
- Message-ID: <1992Jul22.193410.6389@ncsu.edu>
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- Reply-To: dsh@csl36h.csl.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger)
- Organization: North Carolina State University
- References: <1992Jul7.101403.28197@hemlock.cray.com> <1992Jul8.005233.27487@noao.edu> <1992Jul8.181917.12088@rhrk.uni-kl.de> <1992Jul20.223103.5326@coopsol.com>
- Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 19:34:10 GMT
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- In article <1992Jul20.223103.5326@coopsol.com>
- gordons@coopsol.com (Gordon Storga) writes:
-
- >weber@rhrk.uni-kl.de (Christoph Weber-Fahr [KIT]) said:
-
- >> Nevertheless I also think that convenience is one motivation for a pro-
- >> abortion position. And it is one of the worse motivations in a
- >> moral sense.
-
- > Convenience might be one small motivation way down the line somewhere, but
- > speaking for the pro-abortion block on this net I'd say that risk, cost,
- > and freedom would be the three major motivations (in no particular order).
- >
- > Risk: It is far more dangerous to a woman to go through childbirth than it
- > is to get an early term abortion. The statistics range from 10 to 30
- > times more *deadly*.
-
- Even if your statement were true, the relative health risks of early-term
- abortion and childbirth is an argument limited to early-term abortion,
- it does not extend to late-term abortion. I doubt that most pro-abortionists
- would limit themselves to supporting early-term abortion.
-
-
- > Cost: It is far more cost efficient to support abortion on demand than to
- > support the welfare and social results of unwanted/unaffordable children.
- > Something on the order of $1 to $14.
-
- It is far more cost efficient to kill unwanted/unaffordable born children
- than to support them with taxpayer's money. Why should your argument
- be limited to unborn children?
-
-
- > Freedom: We currently have no laws which allow the subjigation(sp?) of
- > citizens to the slavery of others (the draft and encarceration are the
- > gray areas). The slippery slope of bodily servitude is not something that
- > should be encouraged. The 'right' of government to control bodily
- > autonomy is not granted to the federal government, and it has been
- > determined to be a violation of personal privacy.
-
- But why don't fetuses enjoy the same right to bodily autonomy?
- In the vast majority of abortions, their bodies are ripped to pieces.
-
-
- > And don't forget, lives were lost gaining and maintaining these freedoms.
-
- Lives were lost due to starvation, poverty, and poor health. Should we
- legalize bank robbery so these people can buy food and obtain good health
- care?
-
-
- >Gordon
-
-
- Doug Holtsinger
-
-