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- From: gjh@galen.med.Virginia.EDU (Galen J. Hekhuis)
- Subject: Re: Supreme Court
- Message-ID: <1992Jul21.232927.9369@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
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- Organization: University of Virginia Health Sciences Center
- References: <1992Jul20.192606.14167@uceng.UC.EDU> <1992Jul21.004136.9063@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> <1992Jul21.181133.7079@uceng.UC.EDU>
- Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 23:29:27 GMT
- Lines: 95
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- In article <1992Jul21.181133.7079@uceng.UC.EDU> vlsi06@nest.ece.uc.edu (Gregory S Clausen) writes:
- }In article <1992Jul21.004136.9063@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> gjh@galen.med.Virginia.EDU (Galen J. Hekhuis) writes:
- }>In article <1992Jul20.192606.14167@uceng.UC.EDU> vlsi06@nest.ece.uc.edu
- }>(Gregory S Clausen) writes:
- }>
- }>}Abortion is extremely profitable today. It is a multi-billion dollar
- }>}industry ...
- }>
- }>I work in a part of the university here where a lot of doctors are trained.
- }>Among their concerns, indeed, among the concerns of the lenders, is how
- }>to best repay the loans that medical school seems to require. Although
- }>several recommendations as to speciality are made, and none of them include
- }>abortion or even ob/gyn. It isn't that we lack the low-calibre kind of
- }>folks here that would make or follow such a recommendation, we have our
- }>sleezeballs too. I think that the assertion that "abortion is extremely
- }>profitable" or that it is done for the "filthy lucre" (I miss Joe
- }>Applegate) is simply untrue. No doubt a few scams can be noted, but
- }>I seriously doubt that anyone can support this allegation with anything
- }>more than assertion.
- }
- }I'm not sure what any of the above sentences, except the last, have to
- }do with my statement. I simply said abortion is extremely profitable, I
- }didn't begin a treatise on student loans (I guess the above paragraph
- }defines a red herring). As for the last sentence:
-
- No, you didn't start a treatise on student loans. You made the assertion
- that abortion is extremely profitable, and I replied that I have never
- heard it suggested as a method for making money, whereas I have heard
- suggested such things as neurosurgery, radiology, and the like. I'm
- not surprised that you find earning money or repaying student loans
- having little to do with a profitable avenue which a doctor might
- persue, however. Many med students do make that very connection,
- however.
-
- } OB-GYN PHYSICIANS AND RESIDENTS
- } $180,000 Guarantee
- } $180,000 annual guarantee for experienced ob-gyn physicians joining
- } brand new group just moving into Dallas. Will open in July. Full and
- } part time openings for residents in surgery, ob-gyn, and general
- } medicine. Growth potential unlimited.
- }
- }Ad run in _Dallas Morning News_ on June 24, 1974. The above salary guarantee
- }was four times the starting salary for regular obstetric practice.
-
- The assertion was that abortion is very profitable. My last line was
- that I doubted anyone could support that with more than an assertion.
- I notice you didn't even attempt that. You merely quoted an ad that
- says an experienced ob/gyn can make $180k in the Dallas-Ft. Worth
- area. I might ask what that ad has to do with abortion being profitable?
- As a matter of fact, while $180k might seem like a lot (hell, it is
- a lot) it seems to represent a gross guarantee, and doesn't take
- into account costs (like malpractice insurance, very much on the minds
- of ob/gyns) which are subtracted before a profit is figured. But you
- knew that...
-
- }>}which the mob has infiltrated in a few areas of the nation.
-
- }>Oh dear. Where, pray tell? And what "mob"?
-
- }I know, I know, Uncle Mario Cuomo has you convinced that the mafia
- }does not exist.
-
- I define few things based on the opinions of Mario Cuomo. I'm not trying
- to jump to conclusions, but do you mean to imply that the "mob" is
- indeed the mafia? Again, pray tell where?
-
- }>}Abortion Stops a Beating Heart.
- }>
- }>I thought we went over this before. In the majority of abortions,
- }>there isn't even a "heart" to stop beating.
- }
- }The heart begins beating at 18 days and begins pumping blood, whose type
- }is different from that of the mother, through a closed circulatory system
- }at 21 days.
- } J.M.Tanner, G.R.Taylor, et al.
- } _Growth_
- } New York: Life Science Library, 1965, p. 64.
-
- So something which terminates a pregancy before your 18 days does not
- constitute an abortion? Puzzling.
-
- }>I am a bit disgusted by people who repeatedly make statements they
- }>know to be incorrect. Unless, of course, they are too stupid to
- }>do anything else, in which case I pity them. What should it be,
- }>Mr. Clausen, disgust or pity?
-
- }You're on a roll, I'll let you choose.
-
- OK...pity...
-
-
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