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- From: wb9omc@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu (Duane P Mantick)
- Newsgroups: sci.space
- Subject: Re: UFO's
- Message-ID: <wb9omc.712611494@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu>
- Date: 31 Jul 92 19:38:14 GMT
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- bjohnson@casper.cs.uct.ac.za (B Johnson) writes:
-
- >It strikes me that either UFO's are non-existent (UFO in the ETI sense)
- >or the universe is so crowded with inhabited planets as to make earth
- >uninteresting.
- >Lets look at it this way. What would you do if you're the captain of
- >an interggalactic space exploring vessel. You encounter a planet that
- >plainly exhibits several life forms ( Intelligent or not).
- >Do you
- >a) get all excited, jump up and down, and "radio" base for further
- > instructions.
- >b) go have a quick squiz, grab a couple of specimans, and bug out.
- >c) tell all your intergalactic explorer buddies, so they come have
- > a look.
- >d) do a detailed survey, and after determining intelligence, try
- > and make contact.
- >e) Say "ho-hum another bunch of bi-peds, how boring."
- >So the qustion is... if life is as rare as everyone would make it
- >out to be, and UFO's are around, why aren't we the major attraction
- >in the galactic fairground.
-
- You have some good points here, although it might be worthwhile
- to point out that you are looking at it from the point of view of
- "human", with all the self-biases that this suggests.
-
- While it seems fairly obvious that the vast majority of UFO
- reports are pure bullshit so far as any link to ETI is concerned,
- there remains a body of reports that cannot be explained away by
- conventional means. One could make the assumption that some percent
- of these reports suggest "visitation", at least for the purpose of
- this discussion.
-
- Why aren't WE the major attraction?
-
- I think that's really fairly simple. If the "visitors" are
- advanced enough to be capable of travel TO earth and back FROM earth
- to wherever they might reside, it suggests a level of technology
- considerably more advanced than ours. Thus, from the technology
- standpoint, we probably have absolutely NOTHING that they would be
- interested in.
-
- We have been here for umpteen gazillion years as a planet
- and for (apparently) quite a while as humans of some sort. There has
- been plenty of time for such an advanced civilization to learn
- plenty about us - while our means for really reporting, recording and
- analyzing THEM in any *practical* way is only a few hundred years old,
- if that much.
-
- Given the assumption of a radically higher technology, their
- ability to hide from us makes our current high-tech "stealth"
- technology look bozoic by comparison. If the assumed visitors
- would prefer not to interfere and to remain hidden, I think it would
- be fairly presumptuous of us to assume that we'd always know they
- were there.
-
- Why should they visit at all? That's kind of a tough
- question to answer without resorting to the aforementioned human
- concepts of thought. Perhaps they are as naturally curious as we
- are. Perhaps they are interested in watching our technological
- develpoment like WE might watch football (hmmm....wonder if they
- take bets on us? 1945 - will it blow up over Hiroshima or not....
- OOPS, you lose! Geez, these humans are murdering swine! :-) )
-
- (of course, to borrow from another thread - if they were like Klingons,
- they'd have been pleased by the use of the Abombs in 1945...)
-
- As far as making contact is concerned, why? Think about it.
- If they are such an advanced race with presumably advanced
- societies, why the heck do they want primitive savages like humans
- dogging them? To an advanced civilization, we probably come off
- looking like third-rate kamikazes.
-
- There have been many speculations thrown around that we attract
- "visitors" with our radio waves and power emanations and so forth.
- Until we actually ever got a chance to talk to one of said visitors,
- who would know?
-
- Duane
-