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- Subject: Re: ETs and Radio
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- Date: 29 Jul 92 15:49:23 GMT
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- > Given that for evolution of life to start, a simple living organism
- must
- > come together from amino acids etc. by accident; and that for any
- > complex structure to fall together by accident is extremely
- improbable;
- > then it looks pretty much like the odds against life appearing on
- any
- > one planet could easily be more than 10^1000 to 1 against, and the
- > number of planets in the visible universe is only about 10^22.
- >
-
-
- I strongly disagree. Much of the literature I have been reading over
- the last ten years seems to be leaning more towards a view that given
- the chemical conditions, life is pretty likely. Just add a few
- chemicals, stir for a few billion years and let sit without major
- impacts for awhile :-)
-
- There are suggestions that life on Earth actually evolved multiple
- times. During the late stages of heavy bombardment, the time interval
- between strikes that would evaporite water in the ocean deeps was
- sufficient that such could have been the case.
-
- I don't think chemistry is the problem. I think one has to think more
- in terms of more major conditions, like the effect of lunar tides,
- the stability of the solar constant, the size of the life zone, the
- impact rates, the spectrum of energy, the energy sources, the
- metallicity, etc...
-
- The primary error in the above is the assumption that life requires a
- massive number of things to come togetherat once. This may not at all
- be true. There are some facts like the self-assembly of RNA that
- indicate very much the contrary. Some of the lowest starting levels
- of chemical evolution are not well understood, but I think it will be
- found that they do not require any blind watchmaker, just a soup of
- chemicals with energy input and a few hundred million years or less.
-
- Given that, the probability of life is the probability of finding a
- planet with an environment that is stable and satisfactory for a
- sufficient length of time. I think the argument of number of stars in
- the universe makes other life probable is quite a powerful.
-
-
- The question of evolution of microbe life to an intelligence we could
- understand seems a bit more difficult, so I won't.
-