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- Subject: Re: Calendar and Zodiak
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- Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 03:07:00 GMT
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- In article <1992Jul27.203241.24531@pixel.kodak.com>, dj@ssd.kodak.com (Dave Jones) writes...
- >In article <1992Jul27.183247.14412@eos.arc.nasa.gov> brody@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Adam R. Brody ) writes:
- >>I was just reading that the Earth precesses at a period of 26000 yrs.
- >>This means that over the past 2000 years, we have precessed about
- >>30 degrees or one month. If the vernal equinox was in March back then,
- >>how do we account for the missing (or extra) month in our calendar?
- >>To reiterate, the vernal equinox is occurring 2000/26000 sooner than when
- >>it occurred 2000 years ago in a solar system coordinate system. In another
- >>2000 years, will spring star in February, or do we account for precession
- >>somehow in the calendar?
- >
- >This is an interesting question. I just looked in my desktop database
- >(actually the paperback 1991 Information Please Almanac, 10Mb equiv,
- >$7.95 cheap) and on the subject of calendars it deals only with drift
- >due to the solar year not being a whole number of solar days, and the
- >various systems for correcting for that, adding days under various
- >rules.
- >
- >This being the case, I will stick my neck out and say that the length
- >of the solar day must be governed by three things: the Earths rotation
- >period, its orbital speed (which causes a shift of the Sun's apparent
- >position in the sky) and the rate of precession of the rotation axis.
- >Thus a calendar based on the solar day must automatically be corrected
- >for precession.
- >
- >I'll stick it out even further and assert that the sidereal day (which
- >is not affected by the orbital speed) also incorporates precession.
- >
- >P.S. Don't make those nooses too small: I've a size 17 neck.
- >
- >
- >--
-
- Here is what I know about the precession of the equinox. the rate of precession
- is 1/72 of a degree a year. This gives a rate of precession of 25920 years for
- a full turn. This rate is not constant due to the imbalances in the Earth's
- mass distribution. How this precession affects the seasons is thus:
-
- Today in the Northern Hemisphere's summer, the earth is at the apogee of its
- orbit around the sun. As the precession continues on its merry way this will
- be the main parameter that will change. In 12,900 years the northern hemisphere
- will be in its summer when the Earth is at perigee. (I know these are the wrong
- terms, I just don't remember the right ones for sun centered orbits).
-
- This is why the calender will not change (I think) on the day of the year of the
- equinox. It is interesting to note that the change is about 1 degree per
- 72 years. This effects lattitude lines so maybe my first guess is incorrect.
- I remember reading that the great pyramid was at the tropic of cancer when it
- was built a few thousand years ago.
-
- Maybe this info will help, no guarantees, no flames. :-)
-
- Dennis, University of Alabama in Huntsville
-
- Revive the Saturn Five!
-
-