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- From: pgf@srl03.cacs.usl.edu (Phil G. Fraering)
- Subject: Re: Star Trek and public perception of space/science/engineering
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- Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 02:45:03 GMT
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- sichase@csa3.lbl.gov (SCOTT I CHASE) writes:
-
- >In article <pgf.711672356@srl03.cacs.usl.edu>, pgf@srl03.cacs.usl.edu (Phil G. Fraering) writes...
-
- >>_both_ Star Trek series... Hell, if anyone ever starts a terraforming
- >>project somewhere, you know some Professional Idiot over in Congress
- >>or Parlaiment or the Diet or the Supreme Soviet is going to stand up
- >>and say "But how do we know there isn't some life there we can't even
- >>begin to imagine, like that episode of Star Trek?"
-
- >No need. I'll stand up and ask it. It is such a ridiculous question?
-
- Yes. If we are going to live in fear of constantly wiping out
- totally unrecognizable life forms we might as well all give up
- and mass suicide now. True, we don't know whether or not Mars
- might have lifeforms totally unrecognizable to us which might
- be wiped out in a terraforming attempt, but I would consider it
- of considerably less possibility than the possibility that (to
- bring in another and in my mind better example from science fiction)
- every time we spill some whiskey on our towels we sterilize away
- a high civilization built up by hundreds of generations of bacteria...
-
- I think we could recognize life if we see it. If for no other reason
- than Gaea-like effects.
-
-
- >Would you want something from a nearby star system to come here and
- >accidentally reterraform
-
- perhaps the word you're looking for here is Kzinform?
-
- >Earth to their liking because they didn't notice
- >we were here? Until we meet a new life form or two from another planet
- >I don't think you can make a convincing case for our ability to know
- >them when we see them.
-
- If we won't know them when we see them, then how will we know if
- we meet them? Seriously, planetary engineering per se is constrained
- by the basic physics of the various surfaces and energy flux on the
- surfaces of the worlds under consideration, not to mention the need
- for the chemistry to be at least roughly similar. [Translated: I
- don't think silicon-based life forms will evolve on a planet that could
- be engineered to provide earthlike conditions]. Therefore their life
- is likely to be constrained by chemical and physical factors to be
- similar to ours and therefore we would be recognizable to them
- and vise versa.
-
- Also, you might as well live in fear of the Great Cosmic Hankerchief
- as worry about inadvertently wiping out totally unrecognizable and
- inconceivable life forms.
-
- >-Scott
-
- >--------------------
- >Scott I. Chase "The question seems to be of such a character
- >SICHASE@CSA2.LBL.GOV that if I should come to life after my death
- > and some mathematician were to tell me that it
- > had been definitely settled, I think I would
- > immediately drop dead again." - Vandiver
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