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- From: aephraim@physics.Berkeley.EDU (Aephraim M. Steinberg)
- Newsgroups: sci.physics
- Subject: Re: Defining Photons
- Date: 29 Jul 1992 00:49:39 GMT
- Organization: University of California, Berkeley
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- Keywords: Relating photons E=MC^2 criticism
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- In article <24990@dog.ee.lbl.gov> sichase@csa2.lbl.gov writes:
- %In article <mcirvin.712335342@husc10>, mcirvin@husc10.harvard.edu (Mcirvin) writes...
- %>
- %>Or hydrogen, for that matter. A professor in my department
- %>has discussed the possibility of doing "optics" with atoms. I
- %>don't know how close it is to being feasible.
- %
- %If I understand correctly, then the recent discussion of atomic "optics"
- %does not have anything to do with the statistical properties of atoms, but
- %rather that the technology of diffraction gratings has advanced to the
- %point of allowing people to construct atomic interferometers - which among
- %other things would provide incredibly sensitive position and motion
- %sensors since the de Broglie wavelength of an atom is orders of magnitude
- %shorter than that of visible light.
- %
- %This would work for atoms of all spins.
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- For the most part, what you say is true. However, recent advances in
- laser cooling, optical molasses, etc, have begun to approach de Broglie
- wavelengths on the order of the inter-atomic spacing, so there is hope
- of studying Bose condensates of cooled atomic vapor, and in these cases,
- the spin would definitely play an important factor.
-
- If this thread originated by asking about fundamental differences between
- bosonic and fermionic matter, the obvious things to think about are the
- much-studied phases of 3He and 4He.
-
- I've heard about atom interferometers being applied primarily for gravity
- (or acceleration) measurements, or measurements of gravitational gradients,
- but I haven't heard how they would be used as position or motion sensors,
- and I have trouble believing they would do better than the Mossbauer effect
- on the latter score.
-
- --
- Aephraim M. Steinberg | "WHY must I treat the measuring
- UCB Physics | device classically?? What will
- aephraim@physics.berkeley.edu | happen to me if I don't??"
- | -- Eugene Wigner
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