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- From: dwr2560@zeus.tamu.edu (RING, DAVID WAYNE)
- Subject: Re: Defining Photons
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- I write...
- >>? It follows a definite path, even if it was prepared as a plane wave. It
- >>will not interfere with other paths. What does the poor guy have to do to
- >>prove he's classical?
-
- jac@ds8.scri.fsu.edu (Jim Carr) writes...
- >There is a very nice argument on the question of "how can it be that
- >a quantum particle whose scattering is described by a probability
- >distribution can be seen as a well-defined track in a detector" in
- >Schiff's _Quantum Mechanics_ on page 335 (and introduced on page 17 as
- >one of the problems one must deal with when understanding wave-particle
- >duality). The problem is basically that a fast particle with a definite
- >momentum cannot be localized in space and yet leaves a nice track....
-
- >The solution is to consider the detector and projectile as a single system,
- >but I will not try to repeat it all here. Schiff says it very well. His
- >reference is to Heisenberg (1930) pages 66-76 for the calculation.
-
- He doesn't relly present it as a problem, but says it is "surprising at
- first." He gives two approaches where the electron is in a wave packet
- and "well localized". In the third approach (which is not referred to as a
- 'solution'), the only difference is that the 'observer' is not present,
- i.e. the scientist has not opened the box. The chamber is part of the system.
-
- This is analogous to Schroedinger's Cat, on a smaller scale. Before you
- open the box, the particle comes through and the system becomes a
- superposition of different tracks, each correlated so that it points in
- the direction of momentum of the incident particle. When you open the box
- you only see one track.
-
- However one interprets it, I don't think the answer would come out different
- if the particle were a boson.
-
- Dave Ring
- dwr2560@zeus.tamu.edu
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