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- From: steinly@topaz.ucsc.edu (Steinn Sigurdsson)
- Newsgroups: sci.physics
- Subject: Re: "What's New" July-24-1992
- Message-ID: <STEINLY.92Jul27170310@topaz.ucsc.edu>
- Date: 28 Jul 92 00:03:10 GMT
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- In-reply-to: jac@ds8.scri.fsu.edu's message of 27 Jul 92 21:19:41 GMT
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- In article <9985@sun13.scri.fsu.edu> jac@ds8.scri.fsu.edu (Jim Carr) writes:
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- In article <MATT.92Jul26223915@physics2.berkeley.edu> matt@physics.berkeley.edu writes:
- >In article <JMC.92Jul26124213@SAIL.Stanford.EDU> jmc@SAIL.Stanford.EDU (John McCarthy) writes:
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- >> Did I misread, or did the physicists oppose the Space Station, rather
- >> than just say that, considered as science, it wasn't worth the money?
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- >My impression is that physicists are essentially unanimous in thinking
- >that the space station is worthless when considered as a scientific
- >project. There is no such consensus on whether or not it should be
- >built, however---that depends on the individual's political views ....
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- Pretty accurate summary of the APS position. Once it became clear that
- microgravity work was compromised by vibration, interest fell, and then
- I think those plans were dropped from the station altogether in the
- latest review of the project.
-
- But this thread is starting to miss a key point in the report from "What's
- News" concerning opposition to the current space station plan: there
- were *75* _space_ scientists who wrote a letter in opposition.
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- Many of those interested in exploring the universe are opposed to the
- latest plan for the space station because it will probably kill off
- major projects and delay others. I am told that it already has affected
- some of the space science projects funded by NASA, but that is all
- third-hand from me. Any of you sci.space folks out there?
-
- There is a huge argument over whether there is a correlation between
- manned and umanned space program funding or an anti-correlation.
- Basically a zero-sum total budget vs manned space funding drags
- the unmanned program with it. It is probably not a decidable issue.
- On the space science projects issue, my personal impression is that
- there were too many proposed new starts coming at the same time,
- for "big" projects ($billion class missions) - arguably they could
- never have all been funded without a massive increase in the overall
- NASA budget...
-
- My personal opinion is that Space Station Fred is a nasty compromise
- and a butchered design, partly congress's fault, partly NASA top level
- management's fault, but that a space station of that class should be
- built as an engineering project, and that to abandon the design now
- would be probably cripple the space program given the US political
- climate. Follow-ups should maybe go to talk.politics.space?
-
- To bring in some sci.phys relevance, I'd argue that it is time to get
- some engineering experience in space and to develop experience with
- large structures and extended duration missions - as necessary
- preparation for future scientific and other space activities...
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- | Steinn Sigurdsson |I saw two shooting stars last night |
- | Lick Observatory |I wished on them but they were only satellites |
- |steinly@helios.ucsc.edu|Is it wrong to wish on space hardware? |
- | "standard disclaimer" |I wish, I wish, I wish you'd care - B.B. 1983 |
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