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- From: johncobb@ut-emx.cc.utexas.edu (John W. Cobb)
- Newsgroups: sci.physics
- Subject: Re: Jacob's Ladders (was Re: What are those things called...)
- Message-ID: <76673@ut-emx.uucp>
- Date: 27 Jul 1992 21:13:45 GMT
- References: <1992Jul24.193306.23657@samba.oit.unc.edu> <1992Jul24.201747.18420@scott.skidmore.edu>
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- Reply-To: johncobb@ut-emx.cc.utexas.edu (John W. Cobb)
- Organization: The University of Texas at Austin
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- In article <1992Jul24.201747.18420@scott.skidmore.edu>,
- datkatz@scott.skidmore.edu (david atkatz) writes:
- |>
- |> So far, in describing the operation of a Jacob's Ladder,
- |> two people have described the rising of the heated,
- |> ionized air as the mechanism for the heavenward rise
- |> of the spark. This is what I, too, have always believed.
- |> Recently, however, I was told that a Jacob's Ladder will
- |> work in the horizontal position as well, and thus this
- |> simple mechanism is not what causes the spark to move
- |> from narrow to wide gap. I have never tried the experiment.
-
- Well, my intuition as a plasma physicists would say that the motion
- is propelled by a J cross B force. The Jacob's ladder is narrow at the
- bottom and gets wider at the top. The legs are metallic and therefore
- equipotential (at frequencies below RF). Thus breakdown occurs at the
- narrow end because that is where the Electric field is strongest. Now
- once breakdown has occurred, you have set up a circuit where one leg
- of the loop is a plasma arc. This loop is carrying current. The current
- produces a Magnetic Field (Ampere's Law). Look at a small length of the
- circuit. This small current element will feel a Lorentz force due to the
- magnetic field of all of the other elements. Now mechanical forces hold the
- legs and the base of the ladder in place, but the arc is free to move, and so
- it does. you can also analyze this in terms of the "rules of thumb" one
- learns in sophmore physics about how parallel currents attract and
- anti-parallel currents repel.
-
- |>
- |> Would some Ladder-possesing soul care to try this and
- |> report back?
-
- I'm reporting back, but I'm not a ladder possessing soul; just another
- arrogant theorist claiming to explain phenomena that I am not witnessing.
-
- john w. cobb
- jwc@fusion.ph.utexas.edu
-