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- From: Dalcio.Dacol@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Dalcio Dacol)
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- Subject: Re: Blue Sky
- Message-ID: <1992Jul23.223910.1774@samba.oit.unc.edu>
- Date: 23 Jul 92 22:39:10 GMT
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- In article <1992Jul23.171544.6664@trentu.ca> pyacm@trentu.ca (A Colin Morton) writes:
- >In article <1992Jul23.010953.6388@math.ucla.edu> barry@arnold.math.ucla.edu (Barry Merriman) writes:
- >>In article <10018@vice.ICO.TEK.COM> hall@vice.ICO.TEK.COM (Hal Lillywhite)
- >>writes:
- >>> In article <9930@sun13.scri.fsu.edu> jac@ds8.scri.fsu.edu (Jim Carr) writes:
- >>>
- >>> ....
- >>> >George did that routine before blue-corn became popular enough to
- >>> >show up as corn flakes as well as tortillas, or squid-ink pasta made
- >>> >it into american grocery stores. Interesting that there are blue birds
- >>> >and flowers but not blue animals; where is a biologist when we need one!
- >>>
- >>> And I find it peculiar that although there are blue birds, there are
- >>> no blue raptors that I know of. Can you imagine the advantage a sky-
- >>> blue hawk would have? His prey would have a very difficult time seeing
- >>> him until it was too late. I wonder why such an obvious advantage
- >>> seems not to have developed.
- >>
- >>Actually, he should be blue on the bottom and dark on top,
- >>so that he ends up blending in when viewed from above or below.
- >>Thats "why" fish are silver on the bottom and dark on top, perhaps
- >>
- >Most raptors are, in fact, white or very light gray on their undersides,
- >with mottled brown top coats. In most parts of the world inhabited by
- >hawks and the like, partly cloudy or hazy days far outnumber the
- >perfectly clear ones, so this actually works better than a blue
- >underside would -- white shows up less distinctly on a blue background
- >than vice versa.
- >
- >Colin.
-
- The point, it seems to me, is that any bird, no matter what
- color, when seen from below against the day-time sky is going to look
- like a darkish sillouete. since it is mostly backlit. The brownish-gray
- color does offer some camouflage advantage because in the final
- approach, hawks that hunt in open areas come in at very shallow grazing
- angles and so the bcakground, frrom the prey's point of view is either
- a terrestrial landscape (low hills, bushes, etc) or the distant
- horizon, which in general is not blue, but somewhat grayish (sunset and
- down excluded).
- Incidentally, birds are animals and therefore there are blue
- animals. There are also blue lizzards, but in mammals it is quite rare
- indeed. In mandrils, a large african baboon, there is blue pigmentation
- on the face. One should also mention that the blue in bird feathers is
- not produced by pigments, its origin is the same as the blue of the
- sky, namely Rayleigh scattering by tiny air bubbles in the feathers.
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