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- Subject: Re:Time near a black hole?
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- Message-ID: <1992Jul22.152517.202080@uctvax.uct.ac.za>
- Date: 22 Jul 92 13:25:16 GMT
- References: <ARI.HUTTUNEN.92Jul19015723@wonderwoman.hut.fi>
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- In article <ARI.HUTTUNEN.92Jul19015723@wonderwoman.hut.fi>, Ari.Huttunen@hut.fi (Ari Juhani Huttunen) writes:
- > A light ray emitted at the event horizon can never escape the black hole.
- > A light ray emitted an infitinitely small distance outside the event horizon
- > will take an infinitely large time to reach an observer far away.
- >
- > I interpret this to mean that at the event horizon time goes infinitely
- > slowly relative to an outside observer.
- >
- > Now, when a star collapses to a black hole and the star approaches the
- > status of a "black hole", time will go more and more slowly relative to
- > an outside observer.
- >
- > Thus, no matter when the collapse of a star began, it cannot have yet
- > reached the state of a "black hole", since an infinitely long time required
- > to form a black hole has not yet gone by.
- >
- > Also, if indeed the time goes infinitely slowly at the event horizon, then
- > an object could not fall into a black hole in finite time and all such
- > objects approaching the black hole would stay at the event horizon as seen
- > by an outside observer.
- >
- The only flaw in your reasoning is that you don't destinguish between proper
- time and time as measured by observers far from the event horizon - i.e
- coordinate time. It does take an infinite amount of coordinate time for an
- object to fall through the event horizon, but the falling object only takes
- a finite amount of proper time to do the same. The light coming from the
- falling object is also infinitely shifted out of the visible
- spectrum so that the object effectively disappears. A particularly good
- discussion of this stuff can be found in "Gravitation" by Misner,Thorne
- and Wheeler in the chapter on black holes. As for the rest of your
- queries, you would have to chuck out general Reletivity to get them to
- work!
-