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- From: vincent@reg.triumf.ca (pete)
- Subject: Re: propaganda and the new physics
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- Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 20:48:00 GMT
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- In article <1992Jul28.065104.7626@crash.cts.com>, snodgras@crash.cts.com
- (John Snodgrass) writes...
- >
- > I agree. But let's look at the human motive too, so often ignored
- >in these discussions. Scientists are people who want power. They want
- >the average person to look upon them as specially gifted, as penetrating
- >the deepest mysteries of life. And that view should be accurate, but
- >IMO it is not today. It's become a sham, and it's getting worse. Like
- >a developing priesthood, they're slinking toward the God-thing. They want
- >it, and they think they can get it. Those of us who are pro-science don't
- >want to see it become dominated by these types.
- >
-
- Well this is really too much. Now I think I can see the source of John's
- bile. Reading spurious motive into a whole field of human endeavour,
- reflects rather on the realm of motive available to the beholder.
- Let me just say that for myself and most of those I know in the
- basic research fields of the hard sciences, the motive has nothing
- to do with public adulation, or manipulation of the world, or monetary
- gain. There are far better avenues for each of these motives. No, the
- basic drive is simply to know more about what's going on, for its own
- sake. Period. A basic human drive which surfaces in some of us much
- stronger than most, having no doubt had an evolutionary advantage.
- But it is ultimately as visceral a need as sex or food, and like them,
- it may have a rational purpose, but that is not how it appears to
- the psyche. Rather, it is there, primal, raw, and unexamined.
-
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- A cynic's world is comprised Pete Vincent
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