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- From: cet1@cl.cam.ac.uk (C.E. Thompson)
- Newsgroups: sci.math
- Subject: Re: American mathematical hegemony
- Message-ID: <1992Jul21.212224.18859@cl.cam.ac.uk>
- Date: 21 Jul 92 21:22:24 GMT
- References: <75953@ut-emx.uucp> <1992Jul16.165327.2769@galois.mit.edu>
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- In a desperate attempt to save this thread from degenerating into a
- discussion of the rudeness of the British, or even a Welsh vs. English
- slanging match, might we violate Usenet custom and return to the
- original subject?
-
- In article <1992Jul16.165327.2769@galois.mit.edu>, tycchow@riesz.mit.edu
- (Timothy Y. Chow) writes:
- |> In article <75953@ut-emx.uucp> tim@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu writes:
- |> >Well, the British journal Nature this month announced that after stubbornly
- |> >clinging to an archaic tradition during its 125 years of publishing it is
- |> >finally succumbing to modern American terminology and redefining the
- |> >word "billion" from 10^12 to 10^9 and also abandoning its use of "trillion"
- |> >as a word for 10^18 except in direct quotation of others.
- |>
- |> Is this really AMERICAN influence only? Doesn't Russian follow the same
- |> conventions as American English? What about the French?
-
- Well, the sources seem to be in some doubt here. I seem to recall that when
- I was taught such things (c.1960), the two systems were distinguished as
- "American" and "Continental" (which I took to mean "French"). However, the
- OED seems to be sure that French custom matches the American in making
- "billion" = 10^9, "trillion" = 10^12. On the other hand, they also believe
- that French "milliard" = 10^9. Is this really a case of two words for the
- same number?
-
- By the way, it is by allowing the perfectly good imported word "milliard"
- to fall into disuse in English that we have allowed the Americans to win
- this particular battle by default. Discussion of (inter)national economics
- especially encourages one to find a single word for 10^9.
-
- |> >Now I wonder how much longer it will take before the "centre" of a sphere
- |> >becomes a "center".
-
- No, no. Never. We shall fight them on the beaches...
-
- Chris Thompson
- Cambridge University Computing Service
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