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- From: pyacm@trentu.ca (A Colin Morton)
- Subject: Re: American mathematical hegemony
- Message-ID: <1992Jul21.181204.17336@trentu.ca>
- Organization: Trent University, Ontario
- References: <sooz.711677426@vincent1.iastate.edu> <1992Jul21.135206.25360@dcs.qmw.ac.uk> <1992Jul21.172125@sees.bangor.ac.uk>
- Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 18:12:04 GMT
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- In article <1992Jul21.172125@sees.bangor.ac.uk> graham@sees.bangor.ac.uk (The Land of Confusion) writes:
- >
- >In article <1992Jul21.135206.25360@dcs.qmw.ac.uk>, mmh@cs.qmw.ac.uk (Matthew Huntbach) writes:
- >> From: sooz@iastate.edu (Susan F Bradley)
- >> > I lived in Leicestershire for 1 1/2 years, with the same people day in,
- >> > day out. After all that time, I still couldn't say the words "water" or
- >> > "tomato" without sending them all into paroxysms of laughter. One day, an
- >> > elderly guest at the place I worked pitched a fit at me when she heard me
- >> > say that I had "gotten" something. She did this in front of maybe 20-25
- >> > people and serves as a good argument against another point of discussion --
- >> > this idiotic notion that the British are more polite than Americans.
- >> > This woman was decidedly middle class, supposedly well-bred. Where I come
- >> > from, what she did was not only rude, but mean-spirited and completely
- >> > uncalled for.
- >>
- >> I doubt the intention was to be deliberately rude. Probably
- >> they just found your accent quaint and amusing. Remember that
- >> in the UK we are familiar with American accents mainly through
- >> cartoons and TV shows, particularly in areas like Leicestershire,
- >> outside the tourist circuit. Hearing your accent would be rather like
- >> having a character come alive and step out of the TV. I think
- >> you are also running into the common phenomenon that it is
- >> considered acceptable to poke fun at groups of people who are
- >> in an economically and politically superior position to
- >> yourself, but not vice versa. Anti-Americanism is acceptable
- >> because Americans tend to be wealthy, and the USA bosses the
- >> world around. It is not so acceptable to laugh at disadvantaged
- >> groups.
- >>
- >> Matthew Huntbach
- >
- >Sounds like the old crone was just plain being rude, intentionally
- >or not, so what's the point in trying to make excuses for her
- >typical English middle-class parochialism?
- >
- >--
- >graham a stephen ``The only key to your riddle is
- >(e-mail: graham@sees.bangor.ac.uk) to accept the absence of a key.''
- > -- Laibach, 1992
- >Aposiopesis is not really all that it
-
- Excuse me people, but one example does not make a "good argument"
- against anything, nor is it necessarily "typical". Yes, the elderly
- lady involved was rude, but this does not mean that everyone in the
- United Kingdom is. To bring this discussion back to math, consider
- sample size when trying to draw inferences (OK, so it's more statistics
- than math -- sue me).
-
- Colin.
-
-