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- From: alderson@elaine46.Stanford.EDU (Rich Alderson)
- Subject: Re: what has happened to "ascribe" ?
- In-Reply-To: hlirg@alf.uib.no (Roger Greenwald)
- Message-ID: <1992Jul22.022640.23790@leland.Stanford.EDU>
- Originator: alderson@leland.Stanford.EDU
- Keywords: logocide
- Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
- Reply-To: alderson@elaine46.Stanford.EDU (Rich Alderson)
- Organization: Stanford University Academic Information Resources
- References: <1992Jul16.161618.22476@alf.uib.no> <rreiner.711326847@yorku.ca> <8200@amsaa-cleo.brl.mil> <1992Jul21.190619.21438@alf.uib.no>
- Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 02:26:40 GMT
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- In article <1992Jul21.190619.21438@alf.uib.no>, hlirg@alf (Roger Greenwald) writes:
- >A worse one is that the New York Times usually contains at least a few
- >sentences every day in which the verb does not agree with the subject in
- >number. The most common case is that of sentences that begin with "There is"
- >or "there was," and then follow up with a list of items, each of which is
- >singular. (There is anger and frustration in Sarajevo tonight.) But there are
- >many other cases as well.
-
- It may be regrettable, but it is also a wide-spread dialect phenomenon.
- Further, the items need not be singular in the list:
-
- There's cats and dogs and Hallowe'en spooks in the yard!
-
- For a number of speakers of English, this is perfectly grammatical, although it
- may conflict with the usual standards.
-
- >You can say the writers can't count from one to two; or you can say that the
- >plural form of "to be" is gradually disappearing from English. The latter is a
- >linguist's type of description. In this case it's probably correct, even if it
- >may be regrettable.
-
- I don't think it is a case of the plural forms disappearing in other than a
- particular context which is syntcatically determined.
- --
- Rich Alderson 'I wish life was not so short,' he thought. 'Languages take
- such a time, and so do all the things one wants to know about.'
- --J. R. R. Tolkien,
- alderson@leland.stanford.edu _The Lost Road_
-