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- From: pdh@netcom.com (Phil Howard )
- Newsgroups: sci.geo.meteorology
- Subject: Re: Lightning detection equipment
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- Date: 28 Jul 92 18:29:32 GMT
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- mozer@jed.atmo.arizona.edu (Joel Mozer) writes:
-
- >This type of a setup has been (and I assume still is) being used in
- >lightning location networks. They are generally refered to as
- >"time-of-arrival" sensors. Such a system is in operation in the
- >U.S. called "LPATS." I don't know what the acronym stands for but the
- >devices are manufacutured by Atmospheric Research Systems, Inc in Palm Bay FL.
-
- What frequency do they use, or better yet, what is their bandwidth and
- resolution?
-
-
- >Actually lightning location methods have evolved quite a bit in recent
- >years. Another company, Lightning Location and Protection (Tucson, AZ)
- >build several types of Direction Finders (DF's) based on the work of
- >Krider and Uman (as well as others). They use sophisticated RF wave-shape
- >algorithms and spectral information to pin down the ranges more precisely.
- >Some sensors now incorporate optical detection alongside the RF detectors.
-
- The wider the bandwidth, the better this can be done for RF envelope
- shaping. 611 Mhz +- 3 Mhz would be great for this part.
-
- There is also differential frequency propogation in RF. We heard that
- in the form of the rumbling of more distant thunder when the original
- impulse is "stretched" into a different waveform due to this difference
- in the propogations.
-
-
- >A big source of error in getting the direction of cloud-to-ground strikes
- >is that such channels often extend a fair distance horizontally in the
- >region between the cloud and the ground. More accurate results from an
- >RF detector can be had if one gates the incomming signal so that only
- >the lowest tens of meters of the return stroke are seen. This portion
- >of the channel is typically quite vertical.
-
- It will also be seen differently from different directions. It should be
- possible to estimate the extent of the horizontal channel as well.
-
-
- >There are now nationwide networks of DF's which allow one to watch
- >thunderstorm development around the country. They are becomming important,
- >not only for lightning protection, but for forecasting as well. Many
- >meteorologists think that it is easier to watch a line of lightning strikes
- >propagate across a region that it is for radar echos.
-
- I'd like to see the displays combined.
-
-
- >BTW - I have no affiliation with either Atmospheric Research Systems or
- > Lightning Location and Protection.
-
- Darn.
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