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- From: govender@shannon.ee.wits.ac.za (Govender)
- Newsgroups: sci.environment
- Subject: Re: ZERO Nuclear impact (was: Is car pooling for real? etc)
- Message-ID: <govender.712319731@shannon>
- Date: 28 Jul 92 10:35:31 GMT
- References: <1992Jul26.165306.12370@sugra.uucp> <50926@dime.cs.umass.edu> <STEINLY.92Jul27164005@topaz.ucsc.edu> <50981@dime.cs.umass.edu>
- Organization: Electrical Engineering, University of the Witwatersrand
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- In <50981@dime.cs.umass.edu> yodaiken@chelm.cs.umass.edu (victor yodaiken) writes:
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- >In article <STEINLY.92Jul27164005@topaz.ucsc.edu> steinly@topaz.ucsc.edu (Steinn Sigurdsson) writes:
- >>In article <50926@dime.cs.umass.edu> yodaiken@chelm.cs.umass.edu (victor yodaiken) writes:
- >>
- >> I have no opinion on microwave ovens, but Prof. McCarthy has attempted to
- >> argue as follows:
- >> A) Nader attempted to stop the use of microwave ovens
- >> B) Burns from ordinary ovens are not unusual
- >> C) No injuries at all are caused by microwave ovens
- >>
- >>You exaggerate Victor. The argument boiled down to: there is a known,
-
- >I most certainly did not exaggerate here.
-
- >>finite injury rate for children from conventional ovens. Nader argued
- >>that microwaves have a higher probability of injury, McCarthy
- >>suggested the injury rate was in fact _lower_ - not zero.
-
- >Sorry, but you are incorrect. Here are Prof. McCarthy's very words:
-
- >In article <JMC.92Jul25195926@SAIL.Stanford.EDU> jmc@cs.Stanford.EDU writes:
- >> >I dunno about Greenpeace, but Ralph Nader did try to ban microwave
- >> >ovens for that reason. If Nader is responsible for the slower
- >> >penetration of microwave ovens in the U.S. as compared to Japan,
- >> >he killed a lot of children. No-one has been injured by a microwave
- >> >oven, but the conventional cooking that might have been displaced
- >> >partly by microwave cooking has proabably killed a few hundred
- >>
-
- >Please note: "No-one has been injured by a microwave oven".
-
- it seems that this argument boils down to: what does the phrase "injured by
- a microwave oven" mean ? (shades of wittgenstein 8-)). microwave ovens may
- fall on your head;you may close a microwave oven door on your fingers;you
- may drink milk which scalds your tongue - these are all injuries
-
- the problem is all these injuries are caused by someone's stupidity and/or
- carelessness
- and not through the consequences of using a microwave oven with
- a reasonable amount of care.i feed my 9 month old child on milk heated in
- a microwave oven.i also make damn sure that either my wife or i have sampled
- the milk before it is shoved down the baby's throat.
-
- imho childproofing conventional electrical and gas cooking equipment is far
- more difficult if not impossible compared to a microwave oven which imho
- is childproof.
-
- morgan govender
- govender@shannon.ee.wits.ac.za
-