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- From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick)
- Subject: Re: Clinton, Gore, and the End of the Automobile Age
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- References: <1992Jul22.005849.16417@s1.gov> <BruItw.9BD@quake.sylmar.ca.us> <1992Jul23.230804.1294@ccu.umanitoba.ca>,<Bs13Bu.tJ@quake.sylmar.ca.us>
- Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 10:36:51 GMT
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- In article <Bs13Bu.tJ@quake.sylmar.ca.us>, brian@quake.sylmar.ca.us (Brian K. Yoder) writes:
- >I certainly wouldn't use it unless I had no choice, and you could claim
- >that everyone would benefit if everyone had to pay a certain class of people
- >to stay home and not drive at all (the recipients would benefit financially
- >while the folks who pay would "benefit" from less traffic, but that doesn't
- >mean that it is a worthwhile trade-off.
-
- If, in fact, the people who were bribed to stay home benefitted, and those who
- bribed them benefitted, then, unless you've got some bizarre attitude that says
- driving per se is good, it would perforce be a worthwhile tradeoff. Care to
- make another stab at saying what you meant? Or *DO YOU* think that driving,
- per se, is good?
-
- >Yeah, I hear that buses are "cleaner" all the time, but the ONLY air
- >pollution problem I have directly smelled (as opposed to reading about
- >as readings from instruments) is when I am blasted in the face with exhaust as
- >those buses take off at a corner. I hate that!
-
- Fine. You hate it. Now, compare the number of buses on the streets to the
- number of cars. Consider the fact that many pollutants are odorless. Next
- time you come up with a piece of bullshit like this, think before you post
- instead of damaging your (and my, and John McCarthy's,...) credibility.
-
- >>I'm not familiar with LA but there are cities where public transportation
- >>is not just safer and cleaner, but necessary, and for many purposes, simpler
- >>faster, more convenient, and if you like reading, more comfortable.
- >
- >More convenient? Absolutely not. How can you shop for groceries and take
- >home more than you can carry at once? How can you travel at odd hours of
- >the night? (And do women dare travel at night where they have to be out
- >of their car between destinations?) What if where you are going is far from
- >a station? What if you live far from a station?
-
- Please learn to read. The person to whom you were responding said "THERE ARE
- CITIES where public transportation...." He did NOT say that Los Angeles (or,
- for that matter, any other U.S. city) was one of them.
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- Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL
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- Disclaimer: Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS. That's what I get paid for. My
- understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below). So
- unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my
- organization responsible for it. If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to
- hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it.
-