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- Path: sparky!uunet!gatech!gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
- From: gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman)
- Newsgroups: sci.environment
- Subject: Re: Cars, Cities and Choices
- Keywords: Cars Transit Cities
- Message-ID: <1992Jul25.171456.12988@ke4zv.uucp>
- Date: 25 Jul 92 17:14:56 GMT
- References: <ajpbart.711966671@adam.adelaide.edu.au>
- Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman)
- Organization: Gannett Technologies Group
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- In article <ajpbart.711966671@adam.adelaide.edu.au> ajpbart@adam.adelaide.edu.au (Paul Barter) writes:
- [munch]
- >
- >Once a city has become dispersed it is very difficult for transit to be
- >effective, so it decays...services are cut..there are screams about any
- >subsidies...you all know the story. Walking is also now out of the question
- >since nowhere that anyone wants to go is within walking distance anymore.
- >Riding bicycles is now dangerous and unpleasant because of the traffic -
- >and again everything is now far away.
- >
- >So planning too much for cars actually cuts off evryone's other options.
-
- I think it's fair to say that no large US city was *planned*. Instead,
- it just grew. That's true in large part in Europe and Asia too. The
- critical difference is that most of those cities grew at a time when
- the automobile was not an option while nearly all US cities have experienced
- the bulk of their growth after the auto became an option for individuals.
- Many, not all, US cities are surrounded by lots of cheap land that was
- not developed until the city grew. In Europe and Asia, cities grew up
- in the center of intensely used land as the result of the need for a
- central trading area. Thus those cities tend to be inward looking while
- US cities tend to be outward looking when undergoing the pressures of
- growth.
-
- >It is easy to see the past choices and the effect they had on US cities
- >versus different choices on European cities. The next question might be
- >how can a US style city try to regain some of the qualities of transit
- >based cities? Not easy..but I think it has to be done.
-
- On the other side, I think it should not be done. Instead, the city should
- take it's evolution to the logical conclusion and dispense with city centers
- completely. The revolutions in communications, manufacturing, distribution,
- and sales no longer require a central hub. Any attempt to impose one will
- fail because the usage patterns have permanently changed. There is no longer
- a need to attempt to cram everyone into a small central core every morning.
- It's still being done to a large extent, but that's inertia from a previous
- way of organizing commerce where face to face interaction was critical to
- commercial success. Urban areas should evolve toward the requirements of
- the future instead to trying to emulate obsolete patterns of the past. The
- downtown is a dinosaur that hasn't got the message that it is dead yet.
-
- Gary
-