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- From: fil@me.utoronto.ca (Filippo A. Salustri)
- Subject: Re: Can engineering be automated?
- Message-ID: <Bs5upC.BAq@me.utoronto.ca>
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- Organisation: U of Toronto, Dept. of Mechanical Engineering
- Organization: UofT Mechanical Engineering
- References: <1992Jul20.174628.25417@cbfsb.cb.att.com> <19570003@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM>
- Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 17:17:36 GMT
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- myers@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Bob Myers) writes:
- >[Various No's and Yes's deleted]
-
- >Now, is anyone sufficiently tired of stating two of the possible answers to
- >this question so as to give REASONS for their answers?
-
- People giving reasons are also encouraged to preface them with some
- definition of engineering (and/or engineering design). Most of the dispute
- arises from our various *differing* definitions.
-
- >My personal feeling is that while the calculations that many people consider
- >to be "engineering" can be (and have been!) automated, the creativity and
- >innovation end of the game - which is where the REAL engineering is, IMHO -
- >can never be. At least, not at present; you come up with a truly sentient
- >and creative computer, and we'll talk further.
-
- Ok. Real engineering is a creative process of innovation. What do
- we then call those calculations that you exclude? We can't call them
- engineering too; but we do talk about them alot, so we really should have a
- name for them. And by `we', I mean `we' as a group of professional; i.e.
- the answers to these questions should be (nearly) universally accepted.
- Next, we should analyze insofar as is possible this creative process of
- innovation so as to make sure that it, or at least parts of it, cannot be
- `automated' in some way (without requiring artificial sentience). Then, and
- only then, will we have really answered the question.
-
- >Bob Myers | "There is a law of inertia. And I have found that of
- >myers@fc.hp.com | all the inert substances, the most inert is the
- > | human brain." - Edward Teller
-
- Cheers.
- Fil Salustri (fil@me.utoronto.ca)
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