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- From: rizzo@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (anthony.r.rizzo)
- Newsgroups: sci.engr
- Subject: Re: Can engineering be automated?
- Message-ID: <1992Jul29.125652.13819@cbfsb.cb.att.com>
- Date: 29 Jul 92 12:56:52 GMT
- References: <1992Jul20.174628.25417@cbfsb.cb.att.com> <19570003@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM>
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- In article <19570003@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> myers@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Bob Myers) writes:
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- >> |> Tony Rizzo
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- >> "Not no. Yes."
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- >> (source of above quote uknown.)
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- >
- >Not yes. No.
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- >Now, is anyone sufficiently tired of stating two of the possible answers to
- >this question so as to give REASONS for their answers?
- >
- >My personal feeling is that while the calculations that many people consider
- >to be "engineering" can be (and have been!) automated, the creativity and
- >innovation end of the game - which is where the REAL engineering is, IMHO -
- >can never be. At least, not at present; you come up with a truly sentient
- >and creative computer, and we'll talk further.
- >
- >
- >Bob Myers | "There is a law of inertia. And I have found that of
- >myers@fc.hp.com | all the inert substances, the most inert is the
- > | human brain." - Edward Teller
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-
- My sentiments exactly! Calculations can be automated. The representation
- of geometry can be automated. The generation of parts lists can be automated.
- Information can be cataloged. And algorithms can be programmed.
- But these tasks, by themselves, are not engineering.
- The engineering takes place when the calculations are automated, not after.
- The engineering takes place when the parts-list software is created, not after.
- The engineering takes place when the information is first obtained, not
- when it is cataloged.
- The engineering takes place when the algorithms are invented, not after
- they're programmed.
- The engineering is in knowing which of the automated calculations
- are appropriate.
- The engineering is in knowing what part of the geometry is sufficient
- to perform the automated calculations.
- The engineering is in modifying the already programmed algorithm or
- in using it in a new and creative way to solve a NEW problem.
- The engineering takes place every time we use a calculator instead of a cray,
- because the calculator is sufficient.
- The engineering takes place every time we use a cray instead of a calculator,
- because the solution REQUIRES a cray.
- The engineering takes place every time we look at computer-generated
- numbers and INTERPRET them as either a solution or as garbage.
-
- There you have my reasons for saying "NO!" I'm sure that there are many
- who don't agree. To them I say this. May your family fly in a plane
- that was designed by competent engineers and not by technicians with
- automated tools.
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