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- From: gsulliva@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (Glenn A Sullivan)
- Subject: Re: Can engineering be automated?
- Message-ID: <1992Jul21.054332.11919@ennews.eas.asu.edu>
- Summary: Extending my LISP amplifier synthesizer to do RF Systems & receivers
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- Organization: Arizona State University
- References: <1992Jul9.195648.28540@access.usask.ca> <13510032@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com>
- Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 05:43:32 GMT
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- stanb@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Stan Bischof) writes:
- ...... [much deleted]
- > My recommendation for someone really interested in engineering automation
- > would be to design general purpose framework which might behave as alluded
- > to above, which could integrate a relatively arbitrary set of tools, ....
-
- I had success, for a 1986 MSCS, implementing a LISP program intended from the
- start to be extensible, to be an archive, to support redesign by changing the
- specs. Generates a design tree, actually numerous trees, but only one is
- fully expanded. Each tree node is a "TEMPLATE", that is, something to flesh
- out with details. I decided not to use rules, because of the need to provide
- hiding of variable names (e.g. several levels of 'voltage-gain'). Thus a
- template is intended to be a home for all knowledge about a concept.
-
- At that time, there was one supervisory template, supporting multistage
- AC-coupled amplifiers. There are several leaf templates, including
- transformers, attenuators, cascode & CE/CC/CB gain stages.
- If the design task demands 'power-gain' then ACSS would, non-optimally,
- prune the attenuator and the transformer.
-
- The supervisor template MANAGES DESIGN BEHAVIOR by RECOVERING from LOCAL
- DESIGN FAILURE. During extensive experimenting with knowledge representation,
- I tried having independent expert LISP functions (not templates) guess how much
- amplification a template might be able to provide, for a given design task.
- But I found this really messy, and was obviously violating the localization
- of knowledge. So I decided to demand all the gain from each candidate template,
- and let each template prepare a FAILURE REPORT.
-
- Usually local failure did result, due to marginal biasing, or a negative
- emitter resistor, or very low input impedance. So the supervisory template
- would reduce the demanded gain; this raises the input impedance, (more
- resistance in the emitter, and less Miller capacitance) and
- improves the energy transfer between adjacent stages.
-
- Designing a gain-of-10000 (80 dB) amp for 100KHz to 100MHz, with 4 stages,
- took 90+ seconds, on a VAX 11-780 running Berkeley Franz LISP (dynamically
- scoped).
-
- The most fun design, suggested by Dave Hill, was a hifi amp, with phono input
- to be amplified, providing 2 watts to an 8 ohm speaker. The synthesis
- process failed [not that I expected success] because there were no RULES to
- upgrade transistors ( a 2N2222 can't linearly provide 2 watts), and the
- middle stage, out of 3, was very marginally biased. But the circuit would
- have been debuggable, and DID SOLVE THE MAJOR CONSTRAINT, that being LOTS
- of CURRENT GAIN to interface between the 47000 ohms of a phono pickup and
- the 8 ohm speaker. The first and last stages were compound CB-CC, with the
- CC portion providing essential buffering. Very pleasing behavior, for a
- program.
-
- Note that I did not validate these designs via SPICE, since I did not
- have models for such as the MRF901, a 2+GHz device.
-
- At present, I am extending this LISP system, ACSS, Analog Circuit Synthesis
- System, to handle RF system and detailed synthesis of Receivers, as part of
- focusing on PhD research in design/planning with Dr Rao Kambhampati.
-
- Allen Sullivan gsulliva@enuxha.eas.asu.edu
- Designing RF/video circuits for Go-Video
- CS PhD student Arizona State Univ
-
- So is ACSS an object-oriented database?
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